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Kim Carrigan BOOK
ima.seriousyoungliza
8-Mar-2017
5:00:01 PM
HOOOOOOORRAAAAAAYYYYY !!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUtKKoMetM

"...I NEED ANOTHER PILL JUST TO CALM ME DOOOWWWWNNNN !!!!!..."

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!




....................................................................
thats the sound track to the first few months of the Carrigan Years ...

'...Living in the 70's (released in October 1974 on Mushroom Records) is the debut album by Melbourne band Skyhooks.
It spent 16 weeks at the top of the Australian album charts...'

ima.seriousyoungliza
8-Mar-2017
9:39:29 PM
.
...OK...ON BEHALF OF KIM CARRIGAN ...IMA MAKING THINGS OFFICIAL...
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..(1)...SYL (31) KIM CARRIGAN 1981-1985

Make it onto the slab at the top ...and jump off (ima)

...(2)...Lord of the rings (31) STEFAN GLOWACZ 1986

Remarkably sustained face on thinner and thinner holds. If you fall off the slab you'll be in good company.(the crag )

...(3)...THE Lord of the rings (31) NICK SUTTER 1990s

Start at the weakness down right of "Wackford Squeers" and go fairly much straight up.(the crag)

...(4)...Destroyer of the rings(32) LEE COSSEY 2015

Awesome sustained face climbing linking Lord of the rings and Zorlac the destroyer. (thecrag)


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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ima.seriousyoungliza
8-Mar-2017
10:00:41 PM
...the ' new wave ' ?...new wave Aussies rockers... Pseudo Echo...got us out of the CARRIGAN YEARS ...in December 1985 ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnejLmQGYhg

"...GOTTA MAKE A MOVE TO A PLACE THATS RIGHT 4 ME !!!!! ..."

...and then Kim went to Switzerland ....



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Dave J
9-Mar-2017
2:14:30 PM
On 8/03/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>.
>...OK...ON BEHALF OF KIM CARRIGAN ...IMA MAKING THINGS OFFICIAL...
>.
>..(1)...SYL (31) KIM CARRIGAN 1981-1985
>
>Make it onto the slab at the top ...and jump off (ima)

Seems WWS was right and the names already been taken. How about we call it Lord of the Rings Lesser Variant? And lets give it 29 since we've established that's about what Kim was climbing back around then.
>
>...(2)...Lord of the rings (31) STEFAN GLOWACZ 1986
>
>Remarkably sustained face on thinner and thinner holds. If you fall off
>the slab you'll be in good company.(the crag )

ima.seriousyoungliza
11-Mar-2017
1:40:22 PM
...davej...mate...fair dinkum ...just when I thought u were the intelligensia of Chockstone......one of the wisest of the long term Arapiles-Natimuk 'scene ' ...

>>>the names already been taken. ...

hero already enlightened us about all that ....BUT ANYWAY...there are climbs of the same name all over the country ...the world ...u can have 2 climbs with the same name at one crag ... the different grades will make it obvious and not cause any confusion ...in a guide book ...like Ewbank sed ... the description will spell it all out ...

>>>How about we call it Lord of the Rings Lesser Variant?

...about as much as ura ' lesser varient ' of daveC...

>>>lets give it 29 since we've established that's about what Kim was climbing back around then.

...OK well thats gotta be a troll...ITS 31 UP TO THE SLAB...Kim worked the the route for 4 years ...AND DID CLIMB IT !!! ....WETHER U LOT LIKE IT OR NOT !!!...he picked up sh#t loads of muscle memory, beta and perma chalk tick marks to make it happen ....the only other 31 in the world in 1984 was the one put up be Wolfy that year ... so U an damo need to take a deep breth and get to grips with the fact that Kim Carrigan was at the top of world climbing (not just with grades but with world travel and interacting with and contributing to ...all the major climbing scenes around the world at that time ..

...ur logic is like davej says he just climed a new 21 ... and everyones like ....AAAWWWWW NO WAY !!!!... davej did Addiction ...therefore the new route must be 33 !!!

Lord of the rings adds a grade 25 slab to Kim's GRADE 31 HISTORICALLY TOTALLY IMPORTANT MEGA EFFORT ...

YOU guys are re-writing history ...NOT ME !!!...

...thanks for the reply davej ....now go an finish the Inqueersition ...

; ))

...AND EVERYONE PLEASE GET IT CLEAR IN UR HEDS...ROUTES 2 , 3 & 4 are not varients of .. but are extensions to ...KIM CARRIGAN'S SERIOUS YOUNG LIZARDS ( 31 ) ...possibly the first 31 on the planet ...

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ima.seriousyoungliza
12-Mar-2017
2:51:45 PM
..benchmark...state of the art ...Aussie TV during the Carrigan Years ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Paul_Hogan_Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4-7UObXxeI

; P
ima.seriousyoungliza
12-Mar-2017
3:40:24 PM

'...Mark Moorhead when we repeated Tobinís Turjinga Wall. oddly it was the first pitch that no one could do. It involved slab like friction moves that the Australians werenít use to. ..' (supertopo)

...on the right...climbing buddyz Kim & Mark on FA Holy Moses (26)...MM leading the second pitch (25)...
widewetandslippery
12-Mar-2017
4:13:32 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WvuTe_hRPYk

Your idea of doing a route.
ima.seriousyoungliza
12-Mar-2017
4:20:17 PM
: D
ima.seriousyoungliza
13-Mar-2017
4:43:29 PM
...KC'z ...1981 route ... Future Tense (26) @ Frog Buttress...

'...Climb up BST until the tree. The original start up the desperate line 1m to the R is so thin and under protected that it has never been repeated. From the tree, step up and R to follow the increasingly difficult line. Desperate, thin climbing featuring one hell of a sting in the tail!...' (thecrag)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDSg0vlDhm0

BIG GEAR-BREAKIN-RIPPIN SCEAMER...3+ decades after the FA...

...the fun starts at 1 min 20 secs...

..." AAAWWWW SH#T !!!.........FARKINELL !!!............AAARRRRHHHH !!!...........UUUGGGHHHH !!! "...

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ima.seriousyoungliza
13-Mar-2017
6:14:06 PM
dalia de clared :

>>>and as bizarre the obsession about Kim it is at least relevant and on topic....

...bizzarre obsession ......prolly what a lot of the general public think about rock climbing ..

ANYWAY !!!! ....for being naughty and clicking on the thread ...u get a free choppa ride around Kim's frequent obsession during the Carrigan Years............MT ARAPILES !!! ....


http://www.chockstone.org/Arapiles/Arapiles.htm

/www.youtube.com/watch?v=PotCnC8rDGk




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dalai
14-Mar-2017
11:44:18 AM
On 13/03/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>...bizzarre obsession ......prolly what a lot of the general public think about rock climbing ..

True.

Look I am a KC fan. I had an EMC (I think) ad poster of Kim on Height of Fashion on the wall, so definitely thought highly of him. But to carry on about him climbing a route 3/4 the way as a tick is a tad optimistic. He should have added chains before the slab like done numerous times elsewhere around the world when the first ascentionist can't get to the anchors!
widewetandslippery
14-Mar-2017
1:52:58 PM
HoF pretty ordinary 26, but like Dalai I to was in awe of the photo when I saw it.
One Day Hero
14-Mar-2017
3:00:16 PM
On 14/03/2017 dalai wrote:
>Look I am a KC fan.

Same. I think Carrigan put up cool routes, definitely pushed local standards at the time, and sounds like he was a psyched and interesting character.

However, it does seem like his contribution (although quite large) gets exagerated compared to those who came before and after him. And I'm not talking about our reptilian friend, it's the Victorian run climbing media/mafia who have been fixated on the New Wave for 40 years.
ima.seriousyoungliza
14-Mar-2017
9:05:59 PM
>>>BUT...

>>>but....

>>>Howevere ...


...nevermind chains before the slab ... Kim climbed ONTO the slab ...

...GET OVER IT EVERYONE ....KIM CARRIGAN CLIMBED THE FIRST 31 IN AUSTRALIA ....

'...Kim cops heaps of crap but by gees he put up some hard classics years ahead of the pack....' (thecrag)

...just reeellllaaaaaaxxxx....an go 4 tha ride .......read the thread and ALL the links ...

...I thought Claw was the only one who didn't want the KC story told ....

Claw 2014
>>> if Kim did put pen to paper or finger to keyboard he could destroy much of the mythology us also-rans perpetuated after he wandered off....


Wallwombat 2015
>>>I think the harsh reality is, most climbers under the age of thirty haven't got a clue who he is.

I think you old farts need to stay off this thread and let the new generations make up their own minds ...

..................................................
from wiki :
'...Of the Australian definition, Peter Hartcher of the Sydney Morning Herald writes, "(Australian) citizens know that some among them will have more power and money than others... But according to the unspoken national ethos, no Australian is permitted to assume that he or she is better than any other Australian. How is this enforced? By the prompt corrective of levelling derision. It has a nameóThe "Tall Poppy Syndrome". The tallest flowers in the field will be cut down to the same size as all the others. This is sometimes misunderstood... It isn't success that offends Australians. It's the affront committed by anyone who starts to put on superior airs...'

Kim never put on airs of superiority ... he put on airs of CONFIDENCE ...

....so stop dissing Kim's SUCCESS !!!!! ...that's technically VERY UN-AUSTRALIAN ...

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gnaguts
14-Mar-2017
9:31:41 PM
Y did KayC leav tha Tote 2 simes?
Pretty good plum passD up there . . . tho can unnerstand Y he neva climbd singapoor witch iz def ovaraytd.
ima.seriousyoungliza
14-Mar-2017
9:35:23 PM
>>>Pretty good plum passD up there...

I often thhik that too !!!...same with Passport To Insanity...

ima.seriousyoungliza
15-Mar-2017
12:32:25 AM

dalai
15-Mar-2017
11:34:22 AM
On 14/03/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>...nevermind chains before the slab ... Kim climbed ONTO the slab ...

but didn't clip the chains!

According to Ewbank who created our lovely grading system:

Grading takes the following into consideration. Technical difficulty, exposure, length, quality of rock, protection and other smaller factors. As these are more or less all related to each other, I have rejected the idea of 3 or 4 grades, i.e. one for exposure, one for technical difficulty, one for protection etc. Instead the climb is given its one general grading, and if any of the other factors is outstanding, this is stated verbally in the short introduction to that climb

Onto or before the slab is irrelevant. The grade is for the whole climb and not just a technical grade for the crux. If he didn't clip the anchor, he didn't climb grade 31.

With your logic, I have a number of routes where I peeled above the crux; a couple of times staring at the chains just inches from my nose I can claim!

FatBoy
15-Mar-2017
11:50:24 AM
Don't know why you're bothering to engage him Spiritual One - there is no-one else (not even Carrigan) who would claim that "Lord of the Rings Lesser Variant (29/30)" actually qualifies as being a real route.

Our saurian friend has also plainly failed to take into account the fact that that slab move is actually quite hard coming where it does - and is in fact a large part of the reason why the route is 31 (albeit soft at the grade with the Wackford start).

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