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Kim Carrigan BOOK
ima.seriousyoungliza
25-Feb-2017
1:29:48 AM
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READ IT AGAIN , PUNKS ...

http://037200b.netsolhost.com/blog-page.php?Flashback-Russ-Clune-39

'...It was also during this time, many of the climbers Clune had met on the road made their way to the Gunks. American climbers like Ron Kauk made the pilgrimage, and overseas hero-status climbers like Jerry Moffat, Patrick Edlinger, Wolfgang Güllich and Kim Carrigan came to the Gunks as a sort of rite of passage into American climbing. “All those guys knew how to place gear because they had been brought up in the trad climbing era,” says Clune. But coming from Europe, where sport climbing already had some years under its belt, they had strength, too. Rather than sampling the classics, they were asking Clune, “where are your hard routes, and we’ll tell you if they are.”...'
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RESPECT
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...NOW ...

http://www.verticallifemag.com.au/2016/09/first-at-the-grade/

'...Kim Carrigan was so close to climbing what would become Oz’s first 31, Lord of the Rings at Mt Arapiles, that he tentatively gave it a name – Serious Young Lizards – but it was not to be, as he repeated fell off the final slab...'

There's no doubt that Kim was the first Aus to be climbing grade 30+...cos DaveJ reckons this route is harder than Punks

THIS IS A GREAT METAPHOR FOR KIM'S SEIGE OF SERIOUS YOUNG LIZARDS

The last rider/climber is of course a metaphorical Sefan Glowacz...who nails the steep head wall...gets established on the slab , by doing a neat side flick to the right ... then throws a hand full of victory chalk off the cliff , to finish ( dirt flicking from back wheel )



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht3DMDx1spo

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

'...Full sceen...' for best veiwing value

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Andy P
25-Feb-2017
2:59:37 PM
On 24/02/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>OK ... obviously AP wants to hijack the thread to promo his book ...whateva...
>
Nopey nopey, you're being a fool.
>
>...Mick Jagger ???? ...more like a cross-pollination of a present day
>Iggyy Pop & Ozzy Ozbourne ...
>
Beauty is in the eye ,,,, why the personal insults?
>
>NOW !!!!! ....ura fool-on aussie wnka ....congratulations .... nice to
>Kim a year ago now you slag him off ... FKN OAF MATE !!! ....

You seriously are deranged - and obsessed - I have immense respect for KC's climbing achievements as stated earlier. I also said he was a nice guy - which went over your head!
>
>Well motor-mouth
>
Getting a bit emotional & abusive here aren't you?
>

>>>>how could anyone fail on that!!

My mistake there, was referring to A Mid Summer Night's Dream on Cloggy with that quote.
>
>CALM TH FARK DOWN AP !!!! .... you nearly burst into tears in the chat
>with Creesy when recalling about 3 of ur mates who died doing easy soloes

1/, I can't speak for Charlie but I would imagine "Creesy" would make his skin crawl. How sycophantic are you - he maintains he's got no idea who the f*ck you are?!

2/ , Yes. I could've cried actually, they were very close friends of mine and for you to make light of it just shows you up to be a totally insensitive, Carrigan-absorbed nut job with nothing more in life than to troll around here.

>Has anyone got an INTELLIGENT explaination as to why ppl love to hate
>Kim ?...
>
3/ No need to shout troll. Simple intelligent answer (for anyone who does, I don't) is two words: Probably you.

Now go forth and multiply.
AP.



ima.seriousyoungliza
25-Feb-2017
3:11:47 PM
..yeah righto mate ................thanks for ur corrections and opinions ...

: P

In 1979 everyone raced home from climbing to watch this classic on Countdown ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtH58M3HXA

ima.seriousyoungliza
25-Feb-2017
3:45:58 PM


READ IT AGAIN , PUNKS ...

http://037200b.netsolhost.com/blog-page.php?Flashback-Russ-Clune-39

'...It was also during this time, many of the climbers Clune had met on the road made their way to the Gunks. American climbers like Ron Kauk made the pilgrimage, and overseas hero-status climbers like Jerry Moffat, Patrick Edlinger, Wolfgang Güllich and Kim Carrigan came to the Gunks as a sort of rite of passage into American climbing. “All those guys knew how to place gear because they had been brought up in the trad climbing era,” says Clune. But coming from Europe, where sport climbing already had some years under its belt, they had strength, too. Rather than sampling the classics, they were asking Clune, “where are your hard routes, and we’ll tell you if they are.”...'
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RESPECT ( including the fashion of the day ...)
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ima.seriousyoungliza
25-Feb-2017
3:59:07 PM
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=404147&tn=200

'...So yeah, from where I sit, Rivalry is pretty slack.
Although if you look at histr'y, Hot Henry vs The World, Kim Carrigan vs The Valley Boys, & Christian "Verve" Griffith vs the Trad cognescenti
(Wilford et al) still sends a few ripples out now and again...'
Chockstone Moderator
25-Feb-2017
7:25:32 PM
Hex-ima.seriousyoungliza; you have history being modded by us on Chockstone so I will be brief and to the point.

Although you have been appropriately called out by AP in his response to your goading, it is likely not just him (?), and I, who find you tiresome when you degenerate to such low levels in your posts.

You are treading the fine line constituting abuse which contravenes Chockstone policy.

Please raise your standard or you will find your thread locked.
ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
4:06:25 PM
...ahem...

....right lets get this sorted...

JUNE 2016
>Cheers,
>Andy.
>Shall go away again now.

ANDY ....MATE .... PLEASE ....JUST bask in the glory of ur own book and resist the great temptation to click on this thread ... ima has not been ' gaoding ' anyone ...just been giving ' hints ' to ' tiresome ' ppl who are getting frustrated that the book is still a-work-in-progress ...

>You are treading the fine line constituting abuse which contravenes Chockstone policy.

Yair I know but ima trying not to ...but some ppl can't take a hint .... ima trying to avoid the Red Symons method...' ... sometimes you have to cross the line to know where the line is ...'

Its a 2 way street ... if this topic aint yor bag of chalk then go and play on all the other fascinating threads that abound on Chocky these days ...

THANK U

; )

ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
6:43:55 PM
https://www.mountainproject.com/v/vertigo/105911375#a_106149664

'...3rd Ascent Kim Carrigan, et al 1980?
One of the world's top climbers, he took a long (50+ foot fall?) on the route, adding greatly to the route's intimidation factor. Heard 2nd hand that the fall was due to a super "relaxed" belay, and off-route climbing. Apparently the belayer said something along the lines of "he doesn't usually fall on 5.12". Which in 1980 was .... '


Andy P
26-Feb-2017
7:15:51 PM
On 26/02/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>...ahem...
>
>....right lets get this sorted...
>ANDY ....MATE

Kindly, please never, ever refer to me as 'Mate' - I'm Not your mate alright? Nor shall I contribute anything further to this utterly tiresome, sycophantic thread.
Shall hand the reins over to others to continue the dialogue. Whether anyone takes your bait remains to be seen.
Have to cremate my dearest old friend this week and really not in the mood for your rubbish. Don't mention me again OK. Please. Thank you.
G'night,
AP.

gnaguts
26-Feb-2017
7:22:05 PM
On 26/02/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>....right lets get this sorted...
>THANK U

Har har good 1 liz, Ur funnyr, holia? than tasgeez an odius discussn donky route names!
Red Ur new pub shred, an the otha 25 posts from yestayear link where it came from, 2 unnerstand Ur view, an how U renamd montys sujdstion 2 ya.
Luv that U good @shitn all ova otha peeps shreds bak in tha day but get so uptight an outa site if tha karma comes bak@chU.
Not sure kc would want 2B stalkd by ya tho, az ima ssumin he iz unaware of ya postz.
ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
7:27:14 PM
thanks guys ...seeya ...

:)
ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
7:32:45 PM
Pooping Gymnastics

just leave th poopin to me now , eh
ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
7:37:05 PM
https://www.frankenjura.com/klettern/poi/7823

.....................................

CARRIGAN / Moffat BOULDER @ FRANKENJURGA

https://vimeo.com/188406062
ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
8:23:36 PM
...a climbing trip is organised for some Slovaks to visit Frankenjurga , in 1983 ,,,, they are very impressed when they bump into Wolfy and Kim Carrigan...

http://alpinet.org/main/articole/blog_en_id_496_userid_0.html

When you put the article thru the translater , it comes out like this :

'...In the same year the Czechoslovak Alpine Association organized a trip Frankenjura and Pfalz where the best mule Slovaks saw with their own eyes what is free ascent. Sýcora Milan, the son of a Czech emigrant, led the group for climbers eager rocks and, to their surprise, climbed a IX +. At that time they met Gullich W. Kim Carrigan and other personalities in the bag with toothbrush magnesium,. Ours were not able to make only some eights but remained amazed by the new style of climbing and the use of magnesium. They were confident that home will be able to imitate Western aces and began a workout thinking....'

ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Feb-2017
11:08:15 PM

gnaguts
27-Feb-2017
9:05:42 PM
Ay liz, U got that last pic as a poster above ur bed 2?

Carnt find ur pub with free beer shred.
Seems 2B gone an no 1 bats an eyelid?
U really must eitha B 1 bad dude, or hav burnd ur bridges behind Urself on tha rd 2 obsessn?

4 wot itz worth, i like that ur remindin us of kc's legacy.
WoodB rad if gym punks n bunnys actually get ur messige if not tha book, if ever it makes the light of day.
ima.seriousyoungliza
28-Feb-2017
5:13:45 PM
On 27/02/2017 gnaguts wrote:
>Ay liz, U got that last pic as a poster above ur bed 2?

>2?

that implies u have

; D

>Carnt find ur pub

here it is ...



aussie-pub-Carrigan-years-style .... thongs , dogs , ciggies , toe2toe discussions readdy to explode into blood an broken teeth....the sheilas ? ....mostly lurking in the saloon bar ... not my opinion ... thats the way it was .....it was all good fun but when ya got home ya clothes absolutely reeked of cig smoke , spilt beer / spirits ...and dog drool ....

; D

>4 wot itz worth, i like that ur remindin us of kc's legacy.

THK FK some of ' us ' are starting to ' get ' it ...

>WoodB rad if gym punks n bunnys actually get ur messige if not tha book,

huh ?? ...wots bunnys ??...gym punks in relation to KC ? ... how do u mean ...

> if ever it makes the light of day.

wen itz done, ppl will be mesmerized all night an wont wanna put it aside until ' the light of day ' arrives ...

>>>huh ?? ...wots bunnys ??...gym punks in relation to KC ? ... how do u mean ...

ima been getting close to adressing that ... but wots ura spin on it to give me an angle...

...
simey
2-Mar-2017
12:15:01 AM
Not really sure why this book needs to be called The Carrigan Years. There is a definitely a story to be told about Australian climbing from 75 to 85 (whether it be book or film), but Kim is only one of the players. There were a lot of characters who made a significant impression both in Australia and overseas in all manner of climbing... Jon Muir - hard soloing and mountaineering, Louise Shepherd - cutting edge onsights, Greg Child - new routes on El Cap and Himalayan peaks as well as hard free climbs, Mark Moorhead - cutting edge free climbs, hard solos, Himalayan exploits, Mike Law - for everything weird and whacky and occasionally hard.

If I was going to name the star character, it would be Mt Arapiles. It was quite literally home for all the leading Australian climbers and a must visit destination for leading climbers from abroad.

I'm sure Kim is worthy of a biography, but if you're focusing on that ten year time period I would be searching for a different title and a slightly different focus.

One Day Hero
2-Mar-2017
3:58:15 PM
On 2/03/2017 simey wrote:
>There is a definitely a story to be told about Australian climbing from 75 to
>85 (whether it be book or film)

Do you have any idea how sick of hearing this tired old shit we all are? Seriously, for the first ten years I was climbing (while Baxter was still editing Rock), every fuching magazine had something about 'the New Wave'. We used to joke about it (in the late 90's) "is this going to be a Kevin Lindorf issue, or more of a Glenn Tempest issue?" And this was more than a decade after the fact!?!?

It's the same shit with the 'Stonemasters' in the U.S. We get it, they were good, they did a bunch of new hard routes (mostly because they invented training, then dogging and eventually rap bolting). The problem is, these guys and their mates also took over the climbing media. So the rest of us have been reading the same story over and over again for 30 fuching years! I swear to god, if I ever read another John Long piece about some whacky occurrence at Suicide Rock in 1973.............

Fuch the Carrigan years! How about the Stu Wyithe and Dave Jones years? How about the HB and Steve Monks years? How about sticking your heads outside the Araps bubble and take some interest in what Giles, Crunch, and Ant were doing in the Carrigan years?
ima.seriousyoungliza
2-Mar-2017
4:24:01 PM
DAMO !!! ... MAAAAATE !!!!! ....long time no share on a thread ...

I reakon this is the best quote on the entire Chockstone web site ...

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=126176

'...Every 6-18 months; freak out about pointlessness of mundane urban existence, ditch job, go live in the dirt somewhere, watch climbing form magically rebound 5 grades in a month, eventually get bored with rocks and hippies and slip back into mundane urban existence...'

...that is SOOOOOOO relavent to SOOOOOOOOOO many ppl who were touch by the MAGIC / MADNESS of life in the Pines during THE CARRIGAN YEARS ...

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