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Kim Carrigan BOOK
ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:05:29 PM
On 15/04/2016 Andy P wrote:

>KC's 'myths' are all busted now...

You still dont get it ....the myths arent about Kim ...


ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:12:28 PM
On 15/04/2016 widewetandslippery wrote:
> Found great fame in the USA due to being a foreigner who was to par with there best and >being americans that meant the best in the worlld.

Kim actually found more political friction than fame ...

“... You just live in this little world thinking the routes of
five years ago are the hardest routes in the world. The
Valley’s a little world, a very little world, with little people.”

( Kim Carrigan..Climbing # 94 )



ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:19:39 PM
Ok finally found the first 20 ...probably the MASSIVE traverse of Mt Piddington by Ewbank

.......................................


GRADE 38.......9b+ ..........LA DURA DURA .........2013....Ondra & Sharma....[ Australia...NOT YET ]

GRADE 37......9b...........CHILAM BALAM ...2003.......Bernabè Fernandez,....[ Australia...NOT YET ]

GRADE 36......9a+.........OPEN AIR .......1995........Alex Huber......[ Australia...NOT YET ]

GRADE 35 ......9a ..........ACTION DIRECT......1991........Wolfgang Gullich.......[ Australia 2013 ....Alex Megos....RETIRED EXTREMELY DANGEROUS ]

GRADE 34......8c+............HUBBLE.........1990.......Ben Moon......[ Austalia 2004...Chris Webb....WHITE LADDER ]

GRADE 33......8c............WALL STREET.......1987......Wolfgang Gullich......[ Autralia 1999 ..Garth Miller ...GREY AREA ]...



GRADE 32……8b+…….PUNKS IN THE GYM…...1985…...Scheel / Gullich / Moffat..........end of the Carrigan Years

GRADE 31……..SERIOUS YOUNG LIZARDS aka LORD OF THE RINGS…1981 -1986…Kim Carrigan & Stefan Glowaz

GRADE 30…….ETHIOPIA……1984…Kim Carrigan

GRADE 29 ……..MASADA ….1984…Kim Carrigan... & Carrigan-sequence on INDIA (1982)…..Kim Carrigan

GRADE 28……COBWEBS….1981….Mark Moorhead

GRADE 27…...DENIM & YESTERDAY….1979….Kim Carrigan

GRADE 26…….PROCUL HAREM…..1978….Kim Carrigan

GRADE 25…….OSTLER…...1978…Chris Pieksta…

GRADE 24…...COUNTRY ROAD….1976…Claw & Taylor….

1975 ...Henry Barber visits Aus and consolidates Grade 23..and inspires the start of the Carrigan Years



GRADE 23 …..ALBATROSS…1974…Ian Lewis…..

GRADE 22......VALLHALLA 22M2 .....1972......Rick White

GRADE 21......JANICEPTS...21 MO…1966 ... .Ewbank

GRADE 20........THE MASTERPIECE......20 M4....Ewbank

GRADE 19 .......ZACHERIUS 19,M1 ..........1964....Ewbank

GRADE 18……..THE ETERNITY aka YORKSHIRE CRACK .....1965.........Ewbank

GRADE 17…… NW FACE FEDERATION PEAK ….1961.....Ohalleran etal…..& .....LIEBEN @ Warrumbungles…..1962.....Bryden Allen

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Andy P
16-Apr-2016
2:38:50 PM
What I don't get is this obsession ...
I was there, climbed with Kim (he was better than me - I was a just a kid, cragging with Jerry). He climbed in Britain with 'our' unsung hero Douggie Hall. FFA of Psychic Threshold on Great Orme - E5 6b. Both fell off Mayfair - E3 6a - so did Carrigan's Groove to get to the stance.
Wasn't there a headline in Crags magazine 'Bruce Bounces' having taken a monster off Midsummer's? I could be wrong, might've been Douggie. Redhead and I did the next two ascents. I think Kim made an impression in Avon too (check Crags ima).
We did a couple of routes at Le Sassois togther on an International meet mid eighties. I liked him, top bloke but dead intense ... Caught up years later at a Vietnamese restaurant on Victoria St - perhaps '91 or 2. Geez he was bitter.
AP


ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:39:03 PM
OK...clearly John Ewbank and Kim Carrigan were the main men of grade pushing in Australian rock climbing...so why did Ewbank stop pushing grades ...and what did he think of Kim Carrigan...

'...By the early ‘seventies I became so disheartened by the bolting wars and the associated ethical arguments that I decided to abandon ship entirely and concentrate purely on music. Various climbers would come round the house and try to re-inject some of the magic, but I was an obstinate patient. Joe Friend was one. Mike Law was another. Michael actually managed to get me away on a few new routes. One day I went to watch Michael and Kim Carrigan bouldering and there was no question that I was seeing some hot stuff. ..'

http://www.verticallifemag.com.au/2014/03/john-ewbank-ironmongers-of-the-dreamtime/
ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:44:48 PM
On 16/04/2016 Andy P wrote:
>What I don't get is this obsession ...
>I was there, climbed with Kim (he was better than me - I was a just a
>kid, cragging with Jerry). He climbed in Britain with 'our' unsung hero
>Douggie Hall. FFA of Psychic Threshold on Great Orme - E5 6b. Both fell
>off Mayfair - E3 6a - so did Carrigan's Groove to get to the stance.
>Wasn't there a headline in Crags magazine 'Bruce Bounces' having taken
>a monster off Midsummer's? I could be wrong, might've been Douggie. Redhead
>and I did the next two ascents. I think Kim made an impression in Avon
>too (check Crags ima).
>We did a couple of routes at Le Sassois togther on an International meet
>mid eighties. I liked him, top bloke but dead intense ... Caught up years
>later at a Vietnamese restaurant on Victoria St - perhaps '91 or 2. Geez
>he was bitter.
>AP

>>>Wasn't there a headline in Crags magazine 'Bruce Bounces' having taken
>>>a monster off Midsummer's?

Read the post ' Kim Kumsa Kroppa '
ima.seriousyoungliza
16-Apr-2016
2:53:14 PM
On 16/04/2016 Andy P wrote:

>What I don't get is this obsession ...

WHAT I DONT GET IS THE FKG ANTI-CARRIGAN CRAP IN THIS FKG C#NTRY ...

'...Kim cops heaps of crap but by gees he put up some hard classics years ahead of the pack...'

( Will Monks @ thecrag.com )


>>>Geez he was bitter...

a Kim-centric view of the Carrigan Years is essential for Kim to ' have his say ' AND show case his excellent photos and writing skills....and is a must before we get what Claw hinted at in his book ...a history of Aus climbing ...thru the Claw-filter .....





Andy P
17-Apr-2016
9:27:35 AM
There's no Anti-Carrigan crap from this keyboard ima ...
Question: Will Kim pop his head above the parapet and knuckle down to writing his book then?
Seems like you're doing a pretty forensic job of it on his behalf.
hero
17-Apr-2016
3:54:42 PM
I wrote an article for Rock on the 1st of each grade, at what they were considered at the time of writing, not originally graded. Your list appears out on some routes. I don't have the issue with me.

ajfclark
17-Apr-2016
5:39:38 PM
Do you remember what year Hero? I might have it here.
kieranl
17-Apr-2016
9:19:40 PM
On 16/04/2016 Andy P wrote:
>What I don't get is this obsession ...
I'm with you there Andy.

>a monster off Midsummer's? I could be wrong, might've been Douggie. Redhead
>and I did the next two ascents. I think Kim made an impression in Avon
>too (check Crags ima).

I remember that story. Kim took a fall from high up and Dougie had to jump down the hill to save him.
hero
18-Apr-2016
2:10:47 PM
No. Don't remember date. Sometime mid 90s. Surely the chockstone hive mind can find it.
widewetandslippery
18-Apr-2016
4:45:41 PM
Its probably, from Rock, either the one with Martin Scheel on the cover or before/after.

Sorry, there was list in the 80s i am refering to
One Day Hero
18-Apr-2016
8:39:48 PM
On 18/04/2016 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Sorry, there was list in the 80s i am refering to

Nah, it was mid 2000's. I bought the issue and remember the article well, because it is probably still the driest, most mind numbing thing I've ever seen printed in a climbing mag. I hadn't met Greg at that point, and was sitting there thinking "jesus, this guy must be the rain man of the frigging Wimmera". As it turns out, he's not like that at all. The article must have been a total brain snap, thinking that an anal retentive list made for good reading.
widewetandslippery
18-Apr-2016
8:52:55 PM
I, m sure there was a previous list, i stopped buying Rock in the 80s.
Jayford4321
18-Apr-2016
9:33:27 PM
On 18/04/2016 widewetandslippery wrote:
>I, m sure there was a previous list, i stopped buying Rock in the 80s.

Think that article was by kimbo himself and it was scheel give or take a mag.
widewetandslippery
18-Apr-2016
9:36:11 PM
Yeah, the nopoint article

Gnaguts
19-Apr-2016
7:28:06 AM
On 18/04/2016 One Day Hero wrote:
>must have been a total brain snap, thinking that an anal retentive list made for good reading.

Just like this thread has imabecome.

Eduardo Slabofvic
19-Apr-2016
9:41:12 AM
On 18/04/2016 One Day Hero wrote:
>"jesus, this guy must be the rain man of the frigging
>Wimmera". As it turns out, he's not like that at all.

Is there someone else named Greg?
ima.seriousyoungliza
4-May-2016
9:35:56 PM
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