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QUT and affiliates sued for $8m Kangaroo Point 5-Jun-2017 At 3:46:47 PM Wendy

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On 5/06/2017 Goshen wrote:

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>Both parties are making assumptions about the other partner; but only
>one of them has the motivation of death or serious injury if that assumption
>is wrong. Therefore, I reckon I can change my opinion of responsibility
>to 80% climber, 20% belayer - in your particular scenario, sorry ODH.

Dunno about you, but i'd feel more than 20% responsible if i'd taken someone off belay and they fell in that situation. Sure, the climber has the added motivation of ensuring they are not going to die. The belayer has the added motivation of ensuring someone else isn't going to die. Don't know that that should be any less of a motivation.

Said "cultural practice" just sounds wrong. I mean, why would you even bother taking someone off belay for the brief amount of time it takes to rethread anyway? Sure, I pile out a bunch of slack. I've probably got them on a cinch so if I actually ate ham and pickle sandwiches, I might take a bite of one. Or I'd tie off an atc to do so. But they'd still be effectively on belay the whole time.
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