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Call me crazy, but, lkng for partners, rides, etc 13-Dec-2012 At 9:15:10 AM dawyndham

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On 12/12/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>Now put yourself in the yank's shoes. He's on a plane, flying round the
>world for a climbing holiday. Coulda gone to Thailand, Europe, anywhere
>in the whole world, but he's coming to Australia.....to climb! Not to fuching
>pay petrol money for your relocation, whilst frying his fingertips off
>on a variety of halfcut choss. If you went on a climbing holiday to the
>US, would you wanna go on some fuched up road trip through all the corn,
>stopping at a bunch of terrible crags you'd never heard of?

Well actually yes I would. I drove across the US in 2007 without a plan and stopped at a lot of places I'd never heard of. And when I was living in Toronto I found some awesome climbing at Bon Echo, Metcalfe, Devil's Glen. All places 95% of the people on this forum have probably never heard of.

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>Use your head! If he gets a good week in at proper crags in Tassie, bit
>of climbing and a bit of canyoning at the Blueys, maybe a bit of time at
>Point Perp.......it'll be a way better trip than the bullshit you're doing.
>Anyway, he's smart enough to have worked that out, that's why he politely
>told you to stick your stupid epic up your arse.

Proper crags? Please define. There was a time when Arapiles was considered a choss-pile not worth climbing. From my experience a crag is only ever considered worthwhile when it gets a lot of traffic, something that a crag 5+ hours drive from Perth will never achieve no matter how stellar the climbing. If Arapiles was in the middle of the Nullarbor it would probably have about 20 routes on it, if that.

You know some people like granite slab climbing. Not everyone wants to do the same climbs, a fact I'm sure you are thankful of when The Pines are packed but miraculously the climb you want to do has nobody on it when you get there.

I was making a suggestion, not twisting anyone's leg. The man was coming over here from the states wanting to see a lot of the country. Anyone can catch a bus to Arapiles, finding climbing partners willing to explore out-of-the-way places like Peak Charles is a lot harder.

I can respect that the man wants to head somewhere cooler I was making an offer of someone to climb with, which as far as I can see nobody else has.

Captainstargazer I'll check back here when I cross the border from SA back into Vic. If you're at Arapiles or the Grampians, maybe we can sort out a climb.