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Little Jug of Happiness 20 Sublime Point 21-Feb-2012 At 3:24:21 PM hangdog

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On 21/02/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 21/02/2012 hangdog wrote:
>>On 21/02/2012 widewetandslippery wrote:
>>>There is a bushwalking community in the mountains that hates fixed ropes
>>
>> But will happily use Carlons Chains on Narrowneck ???
>
>That's a pretty shit, sport climber attitude! You're happy to have expensive
>commercial camping and fully ringbolted routes at Nowra? Therefore, you
>must be ok with expensive commercial camping and fully ringbolted routes
>at Arapiles?
>
>If climbers can't reach a workable compromise with the bushwalking community,
>we're pretty screwed. They're the demographic who probably have the greatest
>crossover with climbing, and whose interests most closely align with climbers
>interests. I imagine a few walkers have been going down there for decades
>to enjoy the serenity of the place........you can kind of imagine how they
>might be a bit miffed about the 'amazing discovery' by climbers and the
>consequent dogs/screaming redpointfailers/bush-poopers.
>
>A bit like the larger scale invasion of the whole region 200 years ago,
>you gotta realise that upon discovering a new crag less than 15 minutes
>from the car, it probably isn't terra nullius. There are more than likely
>a bunch of folk who frequented the place before you showed up, and rather
>prefered its undeveloped state. If you're unable to even see their point
>of view, there's a strong chance that you're a fukwit!

WTF are you going on about??
You make a lot of assumptions about a person based on what? A one line comment about fixed chains.
ODH you can be very insightful and your posts often articulate what i am thinking. However in this case you are just ranting without knowing my position on this topic.
Bushwalkers can be hypocritical !! Pulling ropes at one place and using chains at another is an example of this. Your rant had some good points but likening it to terra nullis was a long stretch.