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RBs removed from Surfing with Aliens (Bundaleer) 6-Oct-2014 At 7:43:43 PM nmonteith

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On 6/10/2014 Duang Daunk wrote:
>nm wrote;
>>None of these bolts have fallen out - they don't look ideal but they
>have held falls.
>
>Your differentiation meter needs servicing nm, as that same logic applies
>to carrots.

Exactly. I wouldn't pull out carrots on established routes and not replace them. That is the whole point I am making.

These bolts are glue-ins that have not been recessed. There are plenty of examples of this around the place. If one of these bolts actually fell out then fair enough - pull the rest as a temp measure before getting back as quick as possible to replace them. Or leave a warning sign. But if they didn't fall out I don't see why the urgent need to remove them all - especially since they have looked exactly like that for 14 years. They aren't exactly rusting away.

>
>You also earlier wrote that it is a mixed grade 27 route.
>Wtf has the grade got to do with it? ... Unless you are suggesting Gd
>27 spurties also know enough history to know what a hero loop is?

You previously stated that hero-looping the bolts was too fiddly. I was making the point that it is a hard route, that people would probably not be trying to onsight. So just rapping down and installing hero loops is a viable technique. Right now with NO bolts the route is unclimbable in any way.