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Area	Location	Sub Location	Crag	Links
VIC Buffalo	The Horn Environs	(General)	The Horn	[ Horn Guide ]

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Bolting at The Horn, Mount Buffalo 15-Feb-2013 At 11:14:24 PM macey

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On 15/02/2013 GoUp! wrote:

>This is the kind of point I was getting to back on page 1 - that the first
>ascentionist doesn't own the route and shouldn't be the person making the
>call regarding retroing routes. As people age they are susceptible to changing
>their attitudes to climbing and style.....the style that the route was
>put up in should remain constant (or become cleaner) and not be susceptible
>to being changed/corrupted just because the first ascensionists ideas and
>feelings change.
>Claw and some of his bold ascents which are now being dumbed down are
>perfect examples.....
>
I disagree to a point. I've bolted routes in the past, sometimes hastily (not good style, I admit), only to stay awake at night thinking "sh#t! I didn't take this or that into account", and from day one I intend on returning to fix or "retro" my own route, but sometimes it can be a couple of years before I even get the chance to return. By this time, the route has either not been repeated, or it's been played on and people have complained, confirming my initial thoughts. What I'm getting at is its my premature "assumption" that I'm not alone in admitting that I did a poor job of bolting, and I'm also " assuming " (perhaps wrongly) that these same people have not changed their climbing style as they've grown older, but always knew they did a less than ideal job under less than ideal circumstances.