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Kaputar - Euglah Rock 11-Jan-2013 At 12:18:09 PM Access T CliffCare

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On 11/01/2013 Superstu wrote:
>the problem of placing bad bolts... is usually self-rectifying (eventually)
>
>
>Inscribing the grade of the route with a drill bit? And we wonder why
>we have access problems in national parks!
>
>I always wonder if successive generations of climbers keep lowering the
>bar in terms of keeping their impacts under control? Or are climbers generally
>just environmental vandals, only our tools have got bigger and battery
>powered?
>
>Why not take a leaf out of Rudy Giuliani's book on preventing further
>crime (the NY mayor who believed if you fix one broken window, the other
>windows are less likely to get broken). Get together with a few fellow
>concerned citizens and head up there with some epoxy, mix in a heap of
>the local dirt/dust at the bottom of the crag, and patch it all up. I'd
>come and help but Euglah Rock is a zillion miles away. Nice climbing in
>a pretty location though.
>

Yep, this is just the kind of stuff that doesn't go down well at all!
Marking the rock with bolts is a big enough visual problem and one we work with land managers as being a necessary part of some styles of climbing. Marking the climbs and adding more to the visual problem is not something to encourage and it is and will be an issue. I have correspondence to prove it!

I'd hope that the the route marking initials of the past were just that. Whether our old history continues to influence new climbers to do this or climbing overseas at european crags, where route marking is often commonplace, further influences people I'm not sure. But it's not a habit we should be continuing with.

cheers,
Tracey