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Big Cave 14-Jun-2006 At 3:09:05 AM estherrenita_

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On 9/06/2006 simey wrote:
>Pegs utilise natural features of the rock and are usually less of an eye
>sore.
>
>Well placed pegs are bloody solid.
>
>Pegs can be replaced more easily than most bolts.

This may be true, but if thinking about generations of use, the peg is somewhat questionable. The idea of future generations climbing on pin scars rather than the initial route is particularly slim.
Considering that Europeans seem to be able to place safe bolts (as Neil pointed out > in the Frankenjura one always lowers of a single bolt), i find the romanticism of "the Australian style" embarrassing. We should be proud of the fantastic rock or ridiculously safe and quality trad climbing, not of un-eduacted or lazy bolting/protection.

> this doesn't mean that i think the cave should be bolted...
es.