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AZTAR hammer & Adze wanted 17-May-2011 At 10:25:07 PM gonzo

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buy my Quarks! thanks for the promo CitationX

actually i've climbed with both on both alpine and waterfall conditions (but not at the same time!). the Aztars are designed more for alpine stuff, they swing better into lower angled stuff and softer ice. They are lighter too. I've climbed on brittle WI in canada and they were hard work. Also lots of knuckle bashing (but maybe that was my technique).

The Quarks are heavier but also have a better weighted head - swing from the wrist more than the elbow and sink into hard ice nicely. They really excel in funky ice such as cauliflower/mushroom stuff, hook really well and have lots of clearance. The leashes are way better too and they also have a pinky rest so you can climb leashless and not bashes your knuckles. Having said all that, they don't swing so well into lower angled stuff - its not bad, but they are designed for steeper stuff.

ps. if you're going ice climbing, you'll probably need a new (second hand) downy too!