>> And they make their
>>dreams happen.
>.........except the 'ticking Punks' dream, that one didn't happen
For the record, Max sent Punks. No women has yet. But if you actually gave a shit you would know this. As for me, in the past, I didnt take hard climbing that serious. In fact we made a movie about it. Sometimes I would rather get drunk and climb easy stuff instead of train, but that doesn't somehow devalue another climber who takes training seriously and tries way hard. This seems totally obvious. I guess you would have been bad mouthing Wolfgang as well. In fact this whole discussion has bored the shit out of me.
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