Chockstone Forum

      Sponsored By
      ROCK
   HARDWARE

Chockstone Photography

Australian Landscape Prints

Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Topic Date User

OT: Human Rights Framework 2-May-2010 At 3:01:17 PM ET

Message

On 2/05/2010 Hendo wrote:
>On 2/05/2010 porkpie wrote:
>>I find it funny that Hendo the Asian disliker
>
>I'd like to point out my problem isn't that I hate other types of cultures,
>its just that I value my own and see it as something I would like to maintain.
>Currently where I live it has been displaced to a large degree and I see
>this happening many places. Hence there is a problem I think is worth discussing.

I just suddenly remembered a moment on a trip me, Hendo and a bunch of our undergraduate friends (most who were Asians) had to Wollongong... John, Calvin, Hendo and myself were riding bikes towards Shellharbour when a bunch of idiots we rode past started making stupid fake "Kung Fu" noises and poses (everyone but Hendo in that group was of Chinese decent). When Hendo (at the rear) rode past them they stop making those poses and shouted out "Asian wannabe!". Anyway I digress...

Personally I think cultures will change, regardless of whether new groups entire the society or not. I'm going to use my local area as an example, cause that's what I've actually observed for all my life and can comment about. We can use Macquarie Shopping Centre as a good example of cultures changing without foreign forces... it used to be a small shopping centre with everything the community needed and now is a f---ing monstrosity with only designer clothes lines. That has virtually no Asian influence (except possibly the food court). Even in Eastwood, which admittedly is predominately Korean and Chinese now), still have the basic community needs. You still have at least three medical centers (one on Progress Ave, one outside of Franklins and one on Rowe St), two pharmacies (both on the paved area outside the shopping center), plenty of bank outlets and Eastwood still has a bar (not to mention a Liquor Land, a Dan Murphy and another liquor store that I don't know the name of...). The only thing that has suffered in Eastwood store wise in my opinion are the fast food chains which are virtually non-existent there now...

Sports culture? Eastwood still maintains one of the strongest Rugby teams in the nation, but that's because you can actually call Rugby a sport... The only "sport" that has probably suffered with the higher Asian population proportion is probably cricket... but thats more to do with it being a shit boring game. Even second/third generation descendants of immigrants (from non-colonial nations... Indians/Pakistanis (sp?) don't count) will generally agree with that statement.

I have to disagree with you Hendo on this one... I don't see the any of the cultures displacing other ones. Cultures/values naturally evolve and change with time without any external forces. You can look at any major city in the world, study their history and observe that no one there would practice old traditions, especially tradition those pertaining old farming practices which are no longer relevant. The only places where values and culture doesn't change are in small towns who's growth is stagnant and are isolated from the rest of the world which doesn't describe Sydney (or any of the places where I suspect most Chockies here would be from). Community values may take a different direction with new immigrants, but it's unrealistic to believe that they will stay the same with time anywhere in Sydney or any major city for that matter.