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Police charge canyoners for taking risks 20-Feb-2010 At 4:27:26 PM barefoot brian

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On 19/02/2010 rocksinmyhead wrote:
>Walwombat, don't worry too much about barefoot brian & co.
>
>15 guides out canyoning on the weeknd just means it was a very friendly
>time in empress.
>
>I hope everyone got along

im not a guide, and i wasnt out canyoning on the weekend. theres probably a guide or 2 wondering how it is i came to go into bat for them.
i didnt.i dont condone taking clients out in inclement weather; i dont condemn it either

my position is on an indivduals right to engage in risky activity. to be honest i'm not to emotional about the legal side of all of this.
what annoys me is the attitude of people (climbers?) who choose to brand me an idiot on account of their own.. inadequacies? : their reference being to my quote that the best time to be in a canyon is during (or after, i cant remember) a storm.

this is how it looks from where i stand:

as a rockclimber, have you ever been to a gathering where nobody climbs? a probable scenario being a party of a work mate. you talk to them about climbing, they say, 'your crazy' or 'you must get scared'. they have real trouble grasping the concepts.
now , say you turn up to the same pasty with a broken ankle due to loose rock or dodgy gear accident- part of the inherent risk factor we all take on board. now they call you an idiot because you shouldnt have been rock climbing in the first place. 'quite obviously its dangerous...

you guys arent the climbers here, your the people at the party.

being that most people here seem so willing to place a bar at a level for wich they deem to be acceptable for risk, shows they have little concept of what actual risk is, or feel they own some kind of monopoly on it.
whatever risk a person is willing to take is acceptable.
what gives you the right to place a threshold on the limits people are allowed to push?
where do you stop?.. shiny ringbolts for anyone who dosnt know the secret handshake is my guess