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Tim Holding missing 3-Sep-2009 At 11:29:09 AM cruze

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>He made bad decision. And it was a bad decision even given the lack of
>a compass, map, ice axe, epirb and knowledge.
I can agree with that. I just didn't like the way you referred to it as a "stupid" decision. We all make "bad" decisions from time to time when presented with alternatives. I am sure Tim would have done things differently if he had known how it would pan out. But I think that only the person that is there, and presented with the choices that they may or may not have had has the right to call a decision, or in this case probably many little decisions, "stupid". It disrespects their ability to make any decisions at all.

As an example, if a person makes the decisions to run out bouldery moves close to the ground and then decks, is that a bad decision with the benefit of hindsight (because it wasn't a bad decision if they don't deck) or a stupid decision such that if anyone ever does it they are stupid? I can see the difference there.