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OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm 7-Jul-2009 At 11:21:58 AM evanbb

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On 7/07/2009 TonyB wrote:
>The important point to remember is that climate is not controlled by a
>single factor. Solar cosmic rays are clearly a major influence on cloud
>formation and hence temperatures. They are not even considered by the
>IPCC.

Tony, I can't let you willfully misrepresent stuff like this (I'd say lie, but you'll get upset again). What aren't considered by the IPCC? WTF is a solar cosmic ray? Is that different from sunlight? And why on earth are these magical cosmic rays a major influence on cloud formation? Clouds are very much considered by the IPCC, but like all scientific observation there are errors in their estimates.

>"The graph below shows a correlation between the cosmic ray counts and
>the global troposphere temperature radiosonde data. The cosmic ray scale
>is inverted to correspond to increasing temperatures. High solar activity
>corresponds to low cosmic ray counts, reduced low cloud cover, and higher
>temperatures. The upper panel shows the troposphere temperatures in blue
>and the cosmic ray count in red. The lower panel shows the match achieved
>by removing El Nino, the North Atlantic Oscillation, volcanic aerosols
>and a linear trend of 0.14 Celsius/decade. "

Who are you quoting here? Why are they allowed to fiddle with the numbers so drastically, and the IPCC aren't?

>There is a far better correlation of temperatures with solar activity
>than CO2:

The trend lines on those graphs are appalling. Fitting a linear trend to that data is optimistic at best, disengenuous and intentional misrepresentation at worst.