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OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm 15-Jun-2009 At 4:16:11 PM jono_1

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On 9/06/2009 R James wrote:
>On 9/06/2009 GravityHound wrote:
>>No. Am wondering whether you got the information from the report yourself
>>and interprested it yourself or whether you ripped it all from a website
>>that typed out what was written in the report.....
>>
>>
>>From SMH today
>>
>>SCIENTISTS have criticised the Family First Senator, Steve Fielding,
>for
>>promoting "misinformation" that the sun could be to blame for recent
>global
>>warming.
>>>
>>The conclusion that greenhouse gas emissions are the main cause of climate
>>change had been accepted by more than 70 of the world's science academies.
>"
>>
>It seems a bit too convenient to make this statement, and ignore 31,000
>scientists who have signed a document opposing acceptance of the anthropogenic
>hypothesis.
>
>There's a lot of mixed research conclusions on the influence of solar
>activity, and looking at periods such as Maunder and Dalton, and the corresponding
>temperature dip, it's had not to recognise the correlation. If Fielding
>has picked up something new on this at the conference, I'd like to hear
>it.
>
>I expect he's also stuck on the same main problems I have. There's no
>real data to back up the hypothesis of increased carbon dioxide causing
>significant warming (if anyone has any, I'd like to see it.) The other
>big issue is that this whole global warming thing is based on computer
>models that assume positive feedback. To date, these models have totally
>failed to match real data - specifically, they failed to predict the cooling
>over the past 10 years (or 12 years depending on which data set is used.)
>In scientific circles, a model isn't considered valid until it's predicted
>actual data. Yet, we're about to change the world based on these failed
>models. This might be clever politics, but it's not good science.

31000 scientists yeh of which over 3000 have qualifications in medicine and 10000 in engineering!! This comes straight from the organisers website http://www.petitionproject.org/qualifications_of_signers.php
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