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Trad routes as projects? 4-Feb-2008 At 9:37:56 PM climberman

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On 4/02/2008 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>On 4/02/2008 Macciza wrote:
>>Just wondering - If someone has a closed bolted project that could go
>>on gear, am I allowed to try it on
>>gear so long as I don't use any of their stuff? I think it should be
>ok
>>just not sure of the implications . . .
>
>
>What about the situation where a route has been done trad, but the trad
>ascensionist doesn't bother writing
>up a route description and advertising the fact that the route has been
>done. Then someone comes along
>and puts some bolts in it and turns it into a sport route, and then writes
>up a route description and
>advertises that the route has been done, so it's generally accepted by
>the guide book writers that the route
>was first done by the bolter, and the trad ascension disappears into history.

Umm, then you call Keith Bell ?