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    | Topic | Date | User |  
    | Why are the gyms focussing on toprope? | 31-Jan-2008 At 2:26:44 PM | dreamingof8a   |  
    | Message |  
    | On 31/01/2008 Macciza wrote: >On 31/01/2008 dreamingof8a wrote:
 >>Okay, so maybe to sum it up a bit . . .
 >
 >And it really does little for leading on rock (except make you expect
 >a ring every 1.8m) . . .
 >
 >All those other stamina, clipping, falling arguments are just silly .
 >. .
 >Most people who learn to lead in a gym still need to learn to lead for
 >real . .
 >Or else they just complain about how 'run-out' everything is.
 >
 >Remember people were learning to climb outdoors before gyms appeared .
 >.
 
 Remember people were climbing in hiking boots and with static ropes around their waist before modern equipment appeared.
 
 And obviously we are rather talking about sport climbing than trad (as Rich pointed out before) although I am convinced that lead gym climbing also helps for trad lead climbing since it is climbing anyway.
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