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Arno Ilgner Clinic - 17th April 07 15-Mar-2007 At 9:35:06 PM brough

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This is an interesting concept. I'm suspicious of it, but I don't want to cast aspersions on it, but I may.

I though one of the reasons for going climbing, for many people, was, apart from just having fun, to learn skills such as problem solving, confidence, clear thinking under pressure and overcome mental obstacles. These aspects generally, both derive from and feed into the ascent of a rock face and success - you make it to the top safe and you get back down, safe.

For myself, I wonder what I would learn in a clinic for climbing-related mental performance. This assumes that there is learning of the skills that you would/should really learn from climbing, in my opinion.

I may be off the mark completely, because I feel the same way about those Anthony Robbins-type hype and confidence building seminars, while there are probably thousands of people out there who swear by such seminars.

I would imagine that anything someone told me in a clinic, be it under hypnosis or during meditation, would be thrown out the window as soon as that farking cam worked it's way out of the crack and my fingers and forearms started going to shit, as I looked at the pile of rocks at the bottom of the climb and felt brown runny stuff trickling down my leg.

As in life in general, but particularly in climbing, experience is the best teacher. Perhaps these sorts of seminars smoothe and facilitate the experience-building process?

This type of seminar would attract a different sort of climber than me. I don't think they're wrong. However, I would like it if someone without a vested interest could convince me I'm wrong.

Cheers brough