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Ethics versus style debate continued 1-Jan-2007 At 2:42:54 PM BigMike

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Right...

1. So, this discursive essay into ethics was prompted by Organ Pipe asking for beta to help him flash Kachoong, and then other people calling his climbing ethics into question...

If he'd said, ``Shurrup, my Kachoong attempt is perfectly in accordance with climbing ethics, subset flashes, subset trad, subset gear placement, subset online research'', he would have been fine.

2. If I go and add five bolts to Kachoong tomorrow, and some sticky beak calls my actions into question, I shall reply, ``this process is ethically acceptable if your ethics are bolt-based, which mine are'' ... and refer them to you. :-)

3. Herewith, the suggested 2007 Chockstone Overriding Climber's Ethic: ``Don't call others' actions ethically unacceptible unless said actions directly affect YOUR climbing experience, current or future.''

4. Anyone who wishes to also adopt Big Mike's guiding ethic - ``I am ethically opposed to hitting the deck at speed'' - is welcome.