On 16/06/2005 nmonteith wrote: 
>Glue on a camo gym hold. If someone in the future does the move without 
>it - then just tap the hold off with a hammer - and the route will return 
>to its 'pristine' state. Of course the line of bolts and hangers will be 
>as ugly as shit always. 
 
Well, better than chipping I guess. 
 
On a related point, the fear involved in runouts means that for me, bolts reduce the difficulty of a climb. So, perhaps, a little like chipping, bolts are a permanent reduction in the difficulty of a climb in which a better, bolder climber might do without. I sometimes find it contradictory that the majority of people (myself included) accept bolts if they make a climb safer in the absence of natural placements, but are vehemently opposed to any other form of "enhancement". I guess people see safety as the overriding issue. 
 
Please note: I'm not trying to bring up another bolting argument, or criticising the hard work that other people are putting, just using something similar, but largely accepted, as a comparison. 
 
Jim |