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New pitons on Watch Tower 8-Feb-2005 At 1:45:50 AM cheesehead

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Not withstanding my previous posts, Simey is one of the guys I'd've let past the gate with said hammer :)
Learning who'd placed those pegs instantly made me question my previous thoughts on the issue. I won't say it's right, but I was previously thinking in terms of 'poor ignorant tourist who simply didn't consider that randomn pegging is just not cool'.

Unneccesary bolting/pegs suck. This includes when such pieces are necessitated because people who shouldn't be on the route are. As said before, this should be addressed in some way so people don't get seriously hurt (with fixed gear, route-bouncers ("Not in those shoes, mate"), or whatever).

I've also since been thinking about the value of 'ethics/ethos of the first ascentionist'. Maxots points out in another thread, and Simey hints here that the first ascentionist doesn't always do things right, or that things can be improved upon.
I don't always want to do things the way the FA was done, nor do I think it should be imposed on others to do so either.

Yeah, Simey obviously wasn't spending his pins on himself in this case, and should be commended for trying to make the wall a safer and happier place. It's stirred a lot of discontent though.
Interesting one to muse on.

Now who wants the Conch?