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Let´s Harden UP!!!!!!!!!!! 14-Dec-2004 At 7:38:24 PM cheesehead

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On 2/10/2004 Rock Weasel wrote:
>For some people (particularly from NSW) it seems that climbing is about
>bulging muscles, hard redpoints and big, impressive numbers. I know that
>this way of doing things means something and that it may even be popular.

Mon ami Bourge et moi est alpinistes d'extreme. Nous est tres funky!
Les 'Style' superb est imperitiv!!

>But I think that its popularity is diminishing...
Haha, welcome to the finge society of social deviatism, where dispopularity reigns: Dirtbag climbers.

On a (VERY) tangent, It's well worth reading Marc Twight's and Jon Krakauer's observations of the French and foreigners in "Chamonix", a tale from Krakauer's book "Eiger Dreams". Stereotypes do suck, but these guys present a tres drole perspective.

I don't have a lot to contribute RE Serpentine, but respect is due to earnest hardmen like HB for their achievements. Respect is also due lads like Matto, Frilly Pants and I when we cry at a grade 19 crux (dubious point...).
Is there really anything wrong with acknowledging say a lower grade for preplacements (ie, almost a sport climb) alongside a true grade?