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Why rope access kooks have no place in climbing 6-May-2015 At 3:24:03 PM Snacks

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On 6/05/2015 climberman wrote:
>On 5/05/2015 Snacks wrote:
>
>>The fact people are already talking about tit for tat type responses
>to
>>some of these bolts being removed is a clear example why getting individuals,
>>and in this case, the main complainant of the bolts, to remove the bolts
>>is a bad idea...
>>
>>That sets things up for such an obviously ugly outcome.
>
>Was he the 'main complainant'? Hipster's post implies that there's a range
>of issues with them from a Parks perspective.
>
>Yopu're the only one whos's directly mentioned names and 'tit for tat'
>approaches in this thread, AFAIK.
>
>snacks removed his name yesterday from his info.
>
>Anyway, bleghh. Commercial shit and regulations and shit getting engaged
>with recreational anything can go get fuked as far as I reckon. I can think
>of no-where that commercial approach to climbing has benefitted recreational
>climbers in the Blueys.

I'll leave the obvious messy stuff aside.

It's a pity that is a view of the various professionals that make a living from tour guiding and alike in the mountains...

I've run into several very experienced climbers that first started out by being instructed by commercial guides. Most if not all of them spoke highly of that experience in lieu of not having someone to show them the ropes to begin with. Or do these experiences not count for some reason?

I personally have never had a bad experience with a commercial tour group... But maybe I will someday?