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Help wanted!! Getting started in Mountaineering 15-Aug-2014 At 10:17:59 AM sleake

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Get fast on trad multipitch - get fast on rap descents - get fast dragging a pack up a hill.

Then suck it up and go to the mountains - not any in OZ either - blue lake is not alpine climbing - being able to top-rope a 3 meter WI6 will not help you.

Everyone says NZ, but NZ is a terrible place to learn. Yes it is cheap and close, but you wont climb cause its raining/be one of the million ozzies there who think its a good idea to walk up the tasman/up to platau/chancellor - finally get there and are too rooted to climb anything.

Go to Europe, Canada, Nth America and you will cover infinite more ground within a 3 hour walk of your car.

Enjoy - it is good fun!