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Self Regulation - What does it mean to you? 18-Jul-2012 At 5:47:11 PM armstp

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I don’t think you are going to get a process run by the parks service. They had a process in place in the Gramps where commercial groups were supposed to advise them before fronting up, this was supposed to ensure that nowhere was getting too crowded or overused. No one bothered to follow it and there were insufficient parks staff to follow up. Any fee for commercial groups would have to be hefty before it was worth a rangers while to pursue it. That’s why I thought that this might be the time to think about how you involve commercial groups in a code of practice. Not easy as there is no organised body representing them. Many schools who use and trash cliffs have their own outdoor ed teachers. How you get on to all of these many users who make a living out of using public parks for free I don’t know. But their erosion, crowding, rock fall, top rope/abseil bolts will be taken into account by land owners/managers when considering the impacts and problems of having climbers on their land. They won’t differentiate betweeen commercial operations and other types of climbers. This is where a body like the VCC is needed. Because someone from the club could try to find out who the heaviest users are and at least try to get them to assist in paying for and helping to maintain the areas they trash.