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1:22:24 PM
I'm with Nmonteith on this. Two or three disgruntled individuals does not make "a large portion of the people developing new stuff in the Blue Mountains" as stated by Joseph Hinkel (AKA guess who).

Simon puts plenty back in by supporting the Trackcare initiative. He doesn't have to support new routing, which by common practice in Australia is at the expense of the route developer.
1:39:51 PM
Simons has got a lot of web publicity out of this today. Looks like someones savage attack may of backfired.
11:06:47 PM
On 8/11/2010 davidn wrote:
>Thread resurrection - just popped onto (silly, I know) and there
>on the front page, a thread about "Buy local topos, it helps bolitng the
>cliffs." To wit:
>sissy fuss 2010-11-03 21:50:49
>The title of this thread is actually a quote by Marco Troussier taken
>from another thread. What do people think? Should local topos and guide
>books support the development and maintenance of local cliffs?
>Jens Larssen 2010-11-04 12:57:03
>I think that they in most cases do. Often the local topo producers are
>the same guys who also bolts the routes. What Marco refers to is that
>sometimes, the locals put together a guide which is later copied by somebody
>in order to make money.
>crank_n_up 2010-11-04 18:57:26
>Well, I reckon guide books should support maintenance and development
>of routes and crags. If guide books are published without doing so, they
>should be boykotted.
>Joseph Hinkel 2010-11-05 21:05:38
>Point in case: the relatively new guide book to the Blue Mountains near
>Sydney. It's nicely made, contains quite a bit of new routes and crags
>but antagonised a large portion of the people developing new stuff in the
>Blue Mountains.
>Anton Serilast 2010-11-06 19:30:58
>@Joseph - I have a copy of that guide book. It's quite presentable, although
>information is sometimes quite inconsistent and hard to follow if you are
>not local.
>However, why do you think the guide book antagonised local developers?
>I thought that the guide book was written by some locals?
>Joseph Hinkel 2010-11-07 12:14:30
>The guide book editor published information on some new crags against
>the wish of the developers. He has never bolted a route himself, and he
>refuses to support cliff development from the proceeds of the guide book.
>He runs a business, and he wants to make money. Period. Quite a dick-head
>Iris DeBaglio 2010-11-07 21:51:39
>That is really bad. So route developers should make own book, no? And
>climbers should not buy from his business, no?

I have posted a couple of times on that thread. It seems that sissy fuss, Joseph Hinkel, Anton Serilast and Iris DeBaglio are all pseudonyms for crank_n_up who is most probably Martin. It seems funny that the only site where he didnt get shut down was one where he is the one posting most of the messages.

Here is the link:
9:29:49 AM
How does Boganville compare to Atlantis?

Chuck Norris
9:35:26 AM
On 10/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>How does Boganville compare to Atlantis?

More fur in the bumsex

Eduardo Slabofvic
9:40:21 AM
On 10/11/2010 stugang wrote:
>On 10/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>>How does Boganville compare to Atlantis?
>More fur in the bumsex

This is more like it

12:33:34 PM
On 10/11/2010 stugang wrote:
>On 10/11/2010 widewetandslippery wrote:
>>How does Boganville compare to Atlantis?
>More fur in the bumsex

I don't know what this means but it sounds funny.
12:38:04 PM
furry bum=dags=lumpy bits

1:30:00 PM
Sounsd like a pretty fitting description for Martin, phm, crank n up and any of the other anonymous posters. Their tirades don't seem to have garnered the support they were looking for...
One Day Hero
12:26:33 PM
Has anyone on the seppo threads brought up the fact that Martin's text in the old Blueys guide was the biggest pile of spunta in history? No wonder Simon cut him out, it was the only sensible thing to do!

I won't be buying Simon's new guide because I'm still pissed about spending 50 bucks on the piece of shit he did with phm. If you're reading this, Martin, here's a few tips;

1) Just because 5 of your mates get a giggle from endless in-jokes, does not mean you should publish them in a book. The rest of us weren't in on the joke and instead figured that you must be a dick

2) Probably don't write books in a language which is not your first.......I don't mind reading stuff in mashed english, but I do object to paying for stuff in mashed english

3) keep saying ziss word, I do not think it means what you think it means
7:36:23 PM
On 15/11/2010 One Day Hero wrote:
>3) keep saying ziss word, I do not think it
>means what you think it means

I knew it! That's from the "Princess Bride" - a new side to ODH....

8:05:56 PM

8:45:33 PM
... as you wish!

9:00:59 PM
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a bolt war in Queensland" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a guidebook author when ethics are on the line"!
5:26:44 PM
from the SMH (and prob Age) today...

''Will the foreign minister,'' mischievously asked Julie Bishop, ''advise the House when he intends to return to Bogan-ville?''

Krudd is clearly undeterred by the lack of accurate route information...;)

E. Wells
5:52:18 PM
When do we, the Entitled, get a topo for the Farside at N.Neck? Or do we actually have to befriend and belay the Elders of Iron. I refuse to actually go looking using my own initiative. Gimme a guide! Sumbuddy?
Dr Nick
6:36:06 PM
Don't you have to pay the new routers to write a guidebook to new crags at Narrowneck?
8:34:39 PM
Apparently it's "coming soon" to here:

9:28:20 PM
On 17/07/2013 maxdacat wrote:
>Apparently it's "coming soon" to here:

Good on 'em for starting their own thing. I hope they're successful in their endeavour.

In saying that, why wouldn't you just put the details into the Crag and distribute your topo's through an already established medium?
9:18:30 AM
Mind you, when the grades start at 24, I don't care where they publish them...

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