General Climbing Discussion

Author	Havachatwithhexy...
HEX 15-Mar-2005 6:51:22 PM	Hmmmmmmmm ...
manacubus 15-Mar-2005 7:02:09 PM	Your argument could be, well if we sell out our beloved M grading system, why not sell out the Ewbank free system as well and embrace the yank 5.12.005a/b R/X? Simple - our free climbing system is cool. It makes kids in other English-speaking countries ask "Momma Momma, why can't we live in Australia?" Now the M system on the other hand is not cool. It makes the kids ask "So if it's M7, what do I have to do to translate that to real aid grades? Divide by two...carry the one.... ....f&ck this I'm going to go play X-Box instead" Now do we want kiddies to be getting fat playing X-Box?
HEX 15-Mar-2005 7:40:07 PM	Step-aside Peter Beattie ! --- manacubus for Premier !!! ............................... >"Momma Momma..." Itz Feb 1986 and a liddle boy as walking along the beach, at Cape Canaveral, with his mom ... " Mommy ! Mommy !! --- I found a shuttle-c--k !!! " ...
PN 16-Mar-2005 10:58:17 AM	This is priceless, preserved here for posterity The victim..... >On 16/03/2005 Damos wrote: >>Michael, whachoo doin? you a vewy bad man ;) > The denial (maybe Mike actually didn't know about Neilo's deception).... On 16/03/2005 Mike wrote: >"Damos" it was possibly your error that created a topic instead of a poll. >All you had was a standard topic, with no options to vote against. At least >that's how it was when I read it only a few minutes ago. Didn't see it >yesterday. Now I suggest the last 12 messages on this thread be deleted >along with this one. The truth.... On 16/03/2005 nmonteith wrote: >I deleted the old poll and copied the text into this one as i thought it >wasn't a real working poll. Apparently it was for some people but not Mike >and I! Then, back to the denial.... On 16/03/2005 nmonteith wrote: >I also didn't see it until you guys alerted it to me this morning. Could >it have been invisable for me for some reason? And finally...... On 16/03/2005 Mike wrote: >DARRRR! > >Just reproduced the problem!! Deleteing any message on a poll topic kills >the options and the votes. What the!!!? > >Working on it now. > >Sorry Damos - looks like it was a logic erorr. Please no one delete a >message on existing polls. At least not today. But now the plot thickens....... On 16/03/2005 nmonteith wrote: >No it was my fault. I wanted to take control of the internet for global >dommination. I wanted all of you pathetic chockstoner bottom feeders to >bow down and worship the A grades. It was all my evil plan. he he he he
HEX 16-Mar-2005 3:00:05 PM	Mike 16/03/2005 >Okay, just to clarify what happened. There was a bug (which has now been fixed) that >caused the poll associated with a thread to be removed if any message (reply) within >that thread was deleted by a member. Hence the dissappearence of yesterdays poll. >Mystery solved. Crisis averted. All should be fine now. Please continue ... http://www.jimschrempp.com/images/jokes/msoftkids2.jpg " Well done, Mike !!! --- we're mighty impressed !!! " ---------------------------------
HEX 16-Mar-2005 6:45:27 PM	---------------------------- http://www.comfortshoe.com/foot_exercises_.htm ----------------------------
HEX 16-Mar-2005 6:49:02 PM	---------------------------- '...HENRY BARBER : A native New Englander, the legendary climber Henry Barber mastered the art of rock climbing by spending many hours studying the movements of monkeys in the Boston Zoo. As a result of this he developed an amazing style of climbing which combined mastery of technique, problem solving and creativity of movement to climb the hardest routes and be on the leading edge of the free climbing movement of the 1970’s...' (www.gunks.etc) ............................. >BTW none other than Mrs Hex obliquely and unintelligbly referred to these very peg scars >whilst trying to make some irrelevant and specious point in the tragically brief and >pointless 'bolt-free' Frog 'debate' (Mrs Hex was plainly of the persuasion that the bolts >should stay.) So it must be true. Har har : ) & apart from hissy-fit-Rob's boltz , all the bolts are still there...Har har ...looks like Mrs Hexy lept into Qurank, justinthenickofthyme......... you nickcompoop ... ....................................... JamesMc 15/03/2005 >From memory ... He failed to on-sight Manic Depressive at Bundaleer. He what ??!! Greg Child went all :O when he talked with THE HB in the 1990s, cos Henry didn't use any cheat pile'o'stones to climb the hard bit at the start of the route ... something Greg had done during his ' FFA' ... Also of importance, to those who are able to re-interpret ' ...failed...' , is the contribution Henry made at Araps , by free-climbing some of Procul ... '...He revolutionized world climbing standards by continually reaching higher grades and pushing the limits of freeclimbing possibilities...' -------------------------------
HEX 16-Mar-2005 7:56:18 PM	!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! & tonight we're gunna party !!! like itz 29,9,ninety niiiiiiine !!! DO_DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! DO_DO_DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEX 16-Mar-2005 8:54:52 PM	OK obsessed-fan --- you can stop now ... STATZ 838&30,137 & remember obsessed-fan --- Hexy has friendz in low placez ... http://www.hot.ee/bond007jamesbond/K15%20-%20Jaws.JPG ------------------------------------------ & Hexy salutes YOU, tmarsh:-)
tmarsh 16-Mar-2005 9:25:37 PM	On 16/03/2005 HEX wrote: >'...He revolutionized world climbing standards by continually reaching >higher grades and pushing the limits of freeclimbing possibilities...' And he did so with two lax shoulders that were prone to dislocating. He gave a slide show at the old Patagucci store in Melbourne and revealed that he had both shoulders reconstructed. Aparrently he also freed Pebbles at Araps without using the hold around the arete. Having tried to do it that way (coz I didn't *know* about the hold around the arete) I can only doff my flat hat and salute him. tim
James 16-Mar-2005 10:48:17 PM	>There is also a route, reported as grade M9 , by Rick I think , lurking >somewhere in QLD... >Rick's route was on Mt Maroon - i remember hearing that it had been free >climbed at grade 26 - possibly by Hoskins? sounds like the Antichrist 19 M8/9 (East Face of Mt Maroon) at the time of the FFA. According to the late Rick White, the aid grade would be significantly easier now (M6 perhaps?) with the advent of modern gear (ie no more shallow tied off pins). I believe Paul Hoskins freed the crux headwall pitch on top-rope at 28, neglecting to lead it as retro-pro (ie bolts?) would have been necessary for a 'sane' lead. Perhaps you could confirm this Hex... On another note (with no particular point other than ??), the Antichrist was the scene of a 30m fall on a subsequent ascent. *Apparenlty* that day turn into an epic....
HEX 17-Mar-2005 12:12:35 PM	Who is ' S Carter ' ? ... ...................................... Breezy 17/03/2005 >HOCI - Hexy once climbed it :) FAR-Q-2 , Breezy ... .......................................... ;-)
Onsight 17-Mar-2005 12:38:38 PM	On 17/03/2005 HEX wrote: >Who is ' S Carter ' ? ... Some stirrer... ................................ Neilio, lost in the cultural fog of it all...
HEX 17-Mar-2005 12:50:25 PM	Osamaneilladen wrote : >There are at LEAST five grading systems in the world for free climbing. Each systems has >hundreds of thousands of climbers using it. The free climbing world is divided and >confusing - why make aid climbing the same?... Bring on the Austral-Asian-pan-Islamic-state ...
IdratherbeclimbingM9 17-Mar-2005 12:50:49 PM	Onsight posted picture ... LOL I like it! H-T >Osamaneilladen -pan-Islamic-state LOL again!
HEX 17-Mar-2005 1:01:03 PM	------------------- On 15/03/2005 HEX wrote: >...especially when ya consider that >the yanky 'A' system is quite often sub-divided by adding a + , to give >ya ~8 anyway ... LittleMac 17/03/05 >...But seriously in regards to the A grading, the plus makes sense when you consider that >within each A division the plus is simply *that particular division pushed to it's extreme*. >Whitewater paddling for many years has encompassed plusses and minuses to indicate >extrems of each grade and this seems to have worked fine... Yep ! --- Hexyz convinced now ... --------------------------
HEX 17-Mar-2005 1:26:45 PM	Aaaaaawwwwwww F@#% IT !!! --- to hell with 'aid-climbing' --- just go & buy one of these ... >http://www.gekkomat.de elmo lives : >itll change aid climbing as we know it!
LittleMac 17-Mar-2005 1:27:56 PM	On 15/03/2005 manacubus wrote: >Your argument could be, well if we sell out our beloved M grading system, >why not sell out the Ewbank free system as well and embrace the yank 5.12.005a/b >R/X? We don't sell out on our free grading system because it makes sense while the Yosemite Decimal system is useless, who invents a system which doesn't divide the grades divisions up evenly, seems more like guess work to me. The A sytem however is linear and clearly defines each division. That's just my view anyway.
HEX 17-Mar-2005 1:31:41 PM	I reckon you're on da money,dude ! --- I luv ya notion that the A system is now NOT open ended --- good stuff --- Jim Beyer sealed the deal there ... >That's just my view anyway... Luvin' da views from da summit, Luv HEX:-)
HEX 17-Mar-2005 2:07:45 PM	>Yes, lets forget about progress. Revert back to miles, pounds and the denegration of the >native population. Because we must protect our cultural heritage... >Just because it's how things were done in the past, doesn't mean we can't progress >FORWARD! > " I hear it, but I don't bar-leeeeeeeev it !!! --- Mini-me !!! --- don't be so disrespectful !!! "

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