General Climbing Discussion

Author	Havachatwithhexy...
Onsight 22-Nov-2004 3:34:00 PM	Hey Adz, or Wombats, if a couple in a yellow Valiant turn up down there, can you make sure they get plenty of ice for their esky? Oh, if you remember, maybe mention to them I wouldn't mind my arm back - no sweat or nothing. Thanks! (thanks for that Hex).
HEX 22-Nov-2004 3:39:52 PM	..................... Muhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!! .................... Topic Date User 34? Saturday, 28 August 2004, HEX : On 27/08/2004 Onsight wrote: >>Sorry if this is a bit cyptic, it kinda also relates to a post that was >>made then withdrawn the other night. Actually it's a bit of a double - >>or triple - irony. >Sleep easy, bro --- HEX=HEX >Luv HEX ( still cryptic ? , Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...) -------------------------------------------- To Onsight, MM, Adz,Wombatz --- thanx for contributing,in one way or another, to another ' Acid-munching '(thanx Neil ...), Hexy short-story --- Well-done !!! Luv HEX... --------------------------------------------
HEX 22-Nov-2004 5:27:47 PM	-------------------------- Rich 5/05/2003 >Yeh saw this in the age this morning. It says he cut off part of his arm and they didn't >knw whether he managed to cut thru the bone or whether it was crushed totally or >wat.. anyone know? I would have thought it would be damn near impossible to cut >through your own bone with a pocket knife! perhaps he sliced his flesh down to the >bone and pulled arm out like pulling off a glove! yeuck... Not sure wotz worse, mr. moderator : A gnarly visual or a gnarly thought-insertion visual !!! " Watcha horramo-vie right there onma TV !! --- horramo-vie ! --- it's the 6.30 news !!! "... Luv HEX & Sherl ... --------------------------------
HEX 22-Nov-2004 7:36:52 PM	----------------------------------- Movingrightalong... aussie rich 18/11/2004 mikl ,just a few questions regarding inch worm groove (27) did you do it ground up? after the crux it is hard to place gear on lead, did you pre place a wire on rap? or run it out ? proud lead if you did i fell post crux and kicked my belayer in the head. one more move and you fall you will scrape the ground or smack the tree (i have hit the tree but not the ground) Mighty Mouse 18/11/2004 i can see how IWG could be considered dangerous if 27 was at your limit, but i found it sooooo easy it was hard to tell whether it was scary or not Mighty Mouse 18/11/2004 i think it helped a lot that i was using CAMP spider cams, it let me think about the milkshakes waiting for me after the climb and not about popping gear if i decided to jump because it was too easy and boring. if you're thiking oif trying it, i'd recommend youalso get some, they're selling for some $42 at the moment but i forget from where?? trent 18/11/2004 so josh did you sent inch worm groove on the same day you french freed Jack High (19)? rodw 18/11/2004 Lol ! mikl law 19/11/2004 Inchworm Groove?... Would be a hard onsight... ----------------------------
HEX 23-Nov-2004 1:31:30 PM	---------------------------- Rich 23/11/2004 >How about 'viewing' the route from another nearby route? for example, climbing 'blue >hawaii' 21 which is right opposite 'lunatic' 23 (in yesterday gully).. What do people >think about that? because i know the general consensus is often that you're supposed >to be able to view the route from any vantage point... Yeah, I think this is a very good idea, Rich --- it allows for quadratic-pedantic-SYNTHESIS --- i.e. : a wholesome view of the route and most of itz in-trick-arse-eze --- vsv just relying on the walk-to-the-bottom-of-the-route-'bum-shot' view ... Obviously , not many routes have a convenient cliff immediately adjacent to them...maybe set-up a tramp-a-leen... Trojan(25) is of course another route with q-p-S potential (as seen in Carrigan's photo of Louise...) Scenario is vaguely similar to competition,motorcycle,trials(riding thru creek-beds,up banks,over logs, and sometimes even very spectacular mounting of 3-4 metre high boulders ! ...) The point I make is that the rider(on-sight climber ifyalike) is allowed to walk the course,once ,to get visual paradigms, before attempting the best possible,highest scoring shot ... Luv Hexy ... --------------------------
mousey 23-Nov-2004 2:02:46 PM	>is allowed to walk the course,once ,to get visual paradigms, before attempting the best possible,highest scoring shot ... great idea, we just need a name for it....redpoint perhaps?
HEX 23-Nov-2004 2:21:06 PM	No. --- defiantly not redpoint --- if dude was allowed to ' walk the course ' on or with trials-machine , THEN ya might call it a redpoint when it came to attempting the 'official' shot ... 'nameforit'? --- defiantly qpS ...
mousey 23-Nov-2004 2:45:56 PM	ahhh i see ya point (so lets call it a flash)
HEX 23-Nov-2004 3:19:42 PM	--------------------------- If dude can get-around the entire course while keeping feet on foot-pegs,(key criteria), the whole way , THEN ' ...lets call it a flash '... ..................... Grasshopper --- all lines of reasoning will eventually leed to this ingenious etc,etc,etc : Hardest Australian Trad Onsight Wednesday, 28 July 2004,HEX : >Seems to me that the issue here is ONSIGHTFLASH ascents : >Some dude rocks-up to Araps ; grabs his/her boots,rope,trad-rack,chalk-bag ; walks >up a gully ; goes " sak-ra-blur !!! --- what is dis magnificent line ?! " ; a >bumbly ,bouldering near-by , says " I'll giveya' belay, dude --- all I know is that it's >called Cobwebs and it's about USA 5.12d --- go for it !" >Dude then climbs smoothly, confidently, all the way to the top, bearly stopping to >place the occasional runner... >Chalk-marks are par for the course these days... ......................... " There's no off position to the genius switch " ,Luv HEX & Dave Letterman ... ------------------------ Cyber-fuel for this post brought to by Shin Toe Warrior : >...even Hex...Dave Letterman...more quotes... Thanx,dude... ------------------------
Breezy 23-Nov-2004 3:42:42 PM	On 23/11/2004 HEX wrote: >" There's no off position to the genius switch " ,Luv HEX & Dave Letterman Yeh but im sure someone bumps the mute button occasionally :)
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ShinToe Warrior 23-Nov-2004 4:37:39 PM	Yo Hex, no worries mate. happy to add unleaded to the campfire.... BTW all the tilde curvy things are interesting. You could sell it to the National Gallery of Victoria as art. they seem to buy any old crap these days, maybe it was just a mute button bump after all....
Rich 23-Nov-2004 4:38:34 PM	On 23/11/2004 HEX wrote: >---------------------------- >Rich >23/11/2004 >>How about 'viewing' the route from another nearby route? for example, >climbing 'blue >hawaii' 21 which is right opposite 'lunatic' 23 (in yesterday >gully).. What do people >think about that? because i know the general consensus >is often that you're supposed >to be able to view the route from any vantage >point... > >Yeah, I think this is a very good idea, Rich --- it allows for quadratic-pedantic-SYNTHES >S --- i.e. : a wholesome view of the route and most of itz in-trick-arse-eze >--- vsv just relying on the walk-to-the-bottom-of-the-route-'bum-shot' >view ... > >Obviously , not many routes have a convenient cliff immediately adjacent >to them...maybe set-up a tramp-a-leen... Trojan(25) is of course another >route with q-p-S potential (as seen in Carrigan's photo of Louise...) > >Scenario is vaguely similar to competition,motorcycle,trials(riding thru >creek-beds,up banks,over logs, and sometimes even very spectacular mounting >of 3-4 metre high boulders ! ...) >The point I make is that the rider(on-sight climber ifyalike) is allowed >to walk the course,once ,to get visual paradigms, before attempting the >best possible,highest scoring shot ... > >Luv Hexy ... >-------------------------- > > although in our 'field' there are no scores (the closest will be ur mates) just ethical points of reference and honesty. it is a bit silly really the whole no beta, no looks thing but i guess thats what you get when you combine the high standards of a 'true' onsight and the reality of the outdoors and the climbing scene of today. hey wrong thread btw. ;-)
HEX 23-Nov-2004 4:53:47 PM	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BUMP !!! On 23/11/2004 Rich wrote: >although in our 'field' there are no scores (the closest will be ur mates) >just ethical points of reference and honesty. it is a bit silly really >the whole no beta, no looks thing but i guess thats what you get when you >combine the high standards of a 'true' onsight and the reality of the outdoors >and the climbing scene of today. Yes, nice aussie-synthesis you have crafted, Rich ---Kim (1984), putzit this way : '...Because the game of climbing is contrived ( it's usually possible to walk or drive to the top), we abide by a system of ethics. By mutual regard for these, we instill our activity with meaning...' Luv HEX ...
gfdonc 23-Nov-2004 5:01:25 PM	gfdonc here, just tuning in to this thread occasionally, and thinking it is fortunate that you guys now have a playpen of your own. Anyway the point of this rambling was perhaps to suggest that we need a thread titled 'Mikl's World of Climbing Fashion throughout the Ages" based on the pic above, and some other ones from his UK-punk/new-wave-stripy-trousers era that I posted elsewhere. Care to share?
HEX 23-Nov-2004 5:04:35 PM	Post 'em here, ANYONE !!! --- most-welcome !!! -------------------------- Justliktaadd/share this with y'all : Viewing A Private Message From: HEX: To: Onsight: Subject:re: thinkaboutwhatexactly... Date: 22/11/20044:50:57 PM Message: >EXACTLY !!! --- thanx for the ideas !!! >The thread is more of a colourful PRISM than a prison ... >Relax,dude enjoy the ride ... >Luv HEX... ------------------------------ moreofaspraydenthanaplaypen...whateva...' itzallgood!!!' Thanx to all who dare to colour the spectrum,with image OR text, Luv HEX...
HEX 23-Nov-2004 5:27:56 PM	---------------------------------- AAAAaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhSH#T !!! --- Breezy's got his finger on the remote again ... ......................... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .........................
HEX 23-Nov-2004 6:41:44 PM	------------------ Notfalong !!! : Seems ta Hexy that the' Living in the moment' & 'Mind-games, visualisation & being in the zone ' threads are ( obviously ?? ) the same thing ... Whateva,probablyso,anyhow, Kane Henderson putz it all into PRACTICE : '...We rack up in silence, trying to channel energy for a smooth ascent...The moment of truth arrives and my mind is completely blank --- neither calm nor nervous...Clipping the first pin wakes me up and as I move off my emotions sway. The initial wall seems reasonably pumpy, not quite the formality I had imagined --- it's nice to get gear in. Making the last moves to the roof I'm not looking up until I have to, and then when I do : " Oh shit !! " seems to slot automatically into my brain.A reachy little clip of the ceiling pin eases the tension and I back it up with one of the most nuclear-proof nut placements at Arapiles. Now I'm feeling relaxed and blank again. Is this good or bad ? Maybe it's a trait of the younger generation ? ...I spend some time under the roof just shaking out and trying to rack up my thoughts. I know what is required of me but still emotion escapes me. " Isn't this where I'm supposed to feel exposure ? " Enough of this !!! As my hand commits to the first hold I slip into my subconscious mind . Every reach, cross-over and hook, every moves comes to me as I need it. I'm moving fast and precisely. The state of mind rarely achieved in our everyday lives, although most of us have experienced it before. It's as close to a moving meditation as humans get ...Nothing seems hard,yet even the thought of thinking is dangerous ... Now I'm at the lip. " Turn it and it's over. "... Damn, a thought crept in ! Rudely snapped back to reality only seconds too soon, I remember where I am and struggle to cope with one more crank. *Manual focus seems so much harder.*An intense moment sees me standing on a solid footing again and I know, like thousands before me, I've achieved something special to have climbed the legedary Kachoong ... ----------------------------------
James 23-Nov-2004 9:43:22 PM	hex, when are you going to wake up & realise that writing down all your aimless thoughts is actually really bad & stuff 'cause when you go back to them you realise they doen't make nearly & much sense, *nor are nearly as hip*, as you initially thought they much be....
HEX 23-Nov-2004 10:56:49 PM	James --- that really is a soft-c#ck-torpedo you launched there, mate !!! --- reminds me of a Johnny Rotten quote that I'm sure YOU can relate to... ' Sex --- it's just 2 minutes of squelching ...' ......................... Topic Date User THE AUSTRALIAN RE, RETRO-BOLTING OPEN FORUM Monday, 29 March 2004, James : >the sex pistols quotes are damaging to your (apparently flawless...) reputation hex. ....................... Snigger ! , Luv HEX ...

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