General Climbing Discussion

Author	Havachatwithhexy...
HEX 8-Nov-2004 3:35:40 PM	----------------------- Breezy 8/11/2004 >Or glenbrook gorge... Go the mighty Ripsnorter (17) !!! --- best undercling-flake, at any grade, in the ' Mountains... ----------------------- ----------------------- bourge de menteur 8/11/2004 >Looks like poxhead is trying to re-ignite the fire >http://www.musa.net.au/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=160 >And how can we forget >http://www.musa.net.au/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=13 >What a wanker! Ha! Don't believe the tripe, damo is only on the lookout for chicks, >he's pure evil! >Kepping[sic] it real >Bourge ----------------------------- ---------------------------- Kangaroos ?? --- just don't get started on those wombats ... ---------------------------- history ?? --- what you talkin' about Willis ??
mousey 8-Nov-2004 4:01:27 PM	haha that is history at its best right there
HEX 8-Nov-2004 4:03:17 PM	----------------------- Damey/bourge --- you HAVE gone fool-circle now haven't you ! --- like that spluttering SS Short Story with it's rudder jammed to starbourge ... -----------------------
IdratherbeclimbingM9 8-Nov-2004 4:44:51 PM	H-T >chipping in The Blueys was inspired by India(29), with it's associated comment : ' It >wouldn't exist with-out aid ! & >Kangaroos ?? --- just don't get started on those wombats ... They've got BIG-mother wombats in India. ... You should see 'em, a bloke sits on top & they use them to push logs around & all !
HEX 8-Nov-2004 4:46:57 PM	------------------------- On 19/10/2004 HEX wrote: >GOLD !!! --- Kim (1997), elaborates : >' ...I actually bolted the Ring Route in 1981. There wouldn't have been >anything in the world that hard at the time that was considered possible. >It was possibly three or four years ahead of it's time. *I* couldn't climb >it, (although I got bloody close on many occasions !! ),but to see it as >a possibility in ' 81 allowed a lot of other routes to be done that were >a bit easier...DID YOU FIND THE UNDEVELOPED NATURE OF CLIMBING >FASCINATING OR FRUSTRATING ?... Oh,very, very fascinating --- Imagine >being able to look ahead five or six grades ! --- Try doing that now ! On 8/11/04, A5iswhereitsat wrote (in 'Open Projects' ) : >The solution to this dilema ... is fairly obvious methinks. >The persons doing the bolting should be more realistic of their climbing ability (as >opposed to visionary), and bolt routes closer to their ability to climb. >This would lessen the time between the 'hard work' and the 'achievment'... Hmmmm ---depends onya concepts & perimeters of ' achievment ' I spose ... ----------------------
IdratherbeclimbingM9 8-Nov-2004 5:02:00 PM	On 8/11/2004 HEX wrote: Re: >>This would lessen the time between the 'hard work' and the 'achievment'... > > Hmmmm ---depends onya concepts & perimeters of ' achievment ' I spose Fair comment, though I am not saying don't bolt something 6 grades (or whatever) ahead of the present standard. I am saying the 'bolter' should realistically believe they have a good chance of getting up the thing (albeit with hard work etc). Mr Carrigan proves the point by ... >although I got bloody close on many occasions !! --------------------------------------- H-T. I think we are saying the same thing re Kims exploits. You should also delete some items out of your PMs. A message I wanted to send you would not go bc its already full ...
HEX 8-Nov-2004 5:20:30 PM	we are NOT saying the same thing yasillyaddax! ; send the PM here,bro !! ... ------------------------ ??!! --- He DID think he had a '... realistically... good chance of getting up the thing ...' I think the issue is at what point do you take off the red tape &or car-tyre , and graciously hand the route over to all-and-sundry to havago... rather than do a GordanP and start smashing holds/bolts off because someone snitched 'my' route ... Luv HEX ...these issues DO seem to keep cropping-up , eh ... let me look in the archives again... ----------------------------------- Topic Date User THE AUSTRALIAN RE, RETRO-BOLTING OPEN FORUM Wednesday, 11 February 2004 ,PM hex-TROLL : >This stuffs been going on since the sixties : John Ewbank circa 1968 : "Chipping >negates the challenges for future generations" ; "Too many bolts reduces the climbing >experience to just looking for the next bolt-head " etc,etc,etc. Yeah , OK ... --- gfdonc seems reasonably comfy that Mikl 'completed' certain routes --- at least gfdonc didn't do what gets done all too often , and chip a few extra holds , so 'I' can claim the 1st ascent of 'my' route...--- goodonyasteve! ------------------------------- gfdonc 8/11/2004 >Actually for the record NF was nicked while I was posted to Brisbane for work for a few >weeks. I remember being mildly disappointed when being told the news at the airport >on my return. Can't recall how long I had it open for, but think it was a few months. >Again, no sour grapes on finding it was 23, although I probl'y would have got it in the >end... >DOL was a different matter, bolted it, tried it on two occasions, was close to success >but never went back to finish. Call it an abandoned project. I reckon gfdonc almost qualifies for The Gentle Dudes Club ....... too bad we've already scoffed all the brandy&cigars ... ---------------------------
HEX 8-Nov-2004 5:51:32 PM	---------------------- Topic Date User Climbing Music Monday, 8 November 2004,PM elmo_lives : >What do you bring to the Gym? A shirt ... >As fun as it is, ill play it safe next time and just bring along a ghetto blaster powered >by a petrol generator. whatsthestorycerrotorre??... -----------------------------
elmo_lives 8-Nov-2004 6:05:22 PM	Screw the ‘challenges for future generations’. The present is for me, so ill chip what I want, when I want. Ill chip a hold into a chipped hold, and no-one can stop me. Not even those nosey kids and their dumb dog.
HEX 8-Nov-2004 6:09:47 PM	Just don't mention those (C)ossey kids ...
HEX 8-Nov-2004 6:38:02 PM	------------------- Onsight 8/11/2004 >What’s the hip term to use these days? >Oh yeah… >“Peace out.” or perhaps, in the case you refer to : "yabeddagetyaselfalawyersonyabeddagetyaselfareeeeeaaaalgoodone..." Luv HEX&dacruelsea ...
Onsight 8-Nov-2004 6:49:48 PM	Make that a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaalgoodone...
Onsight 8-Nov-2004 6:51:08 PM	On 8/11/2004 HEX wrote: >Just don't mention those (C)ossey kids ... For the record, Lee Cossey is a super-talented climber and a really great guy actually. Same surname perhaps. But I’ve never known Lee to chip. So it’s not really fair to lump em together in the same boat like that Hex.
HEX 8-Nov-2004 7:06:30 PM	What boat ?... aw ya mean this one ! : Topic Date User Cossey sends Ozs Hardest Friday, 12 September 2003, nmonteith : from climbing.com.au : >Blue Mountains resident Ben Cossey has produce Australia's first 34 (F8c+, 5.14c) >and in the process became the first Australian to climb this grade. Ben completed the >long standing project, at Boronia Point in the Blue Mountians, near Sydney on >Saturday, 6th September 2003. Here is how he put it: >Hello Mark, >Did that thing at Boronia Point, choice! It's called MECHANICAL ANIMALS and it's >great! I graded it 34, choice! >Lee (Cossey) , Justin (Clark) and Zac (Vertrees) all agree. I wouldn't care if they didn't >though! It's about 20 metres long and is great!, 3 stars!, lovely! That's all. >I thought you would like to know because you asked me about when people will do >harder things so I thought I would tell you when I did it. >See you sometime. >Benjamin Cossey Yeah, ya right Onsight --- but it's not really fair to leave Ben out of the ' ...really great guy...' boat either, eh ...
HEX 8-Nov-2004 7:21:02 PM	------------------------- > " Cossey&Cube-arrrrse !!! --- if you can heeeeaaarrrr-meeeeeee !!! --- I honestLEE luv you guys !!! "... -----------------------
HEX 8-Nov-2004 7:24:49 PM	Quick Hexy !! --- turn the page & act all innocent !!! ........................snigger ! -----------------------------
Onsight 8-Nov-2004 7:49:33 PM	On 8/11/2004 HEX wrote: >Yeah, ya right Onsight --- but it's not really fair to leave Ben out of >the ' ...really great guy...' boat either, eh ... I wasn't. If you read my post the only "boat" I was referring was the chipping one. I clearly wasn’t commenting on Ben’s ‘really great guy’ status. That's why my post was in two paragraphs. There is no connection between the two statements. Who's the bleedin pedant now Hex? One pedantic Hexy. Two pedantic Hexy’s... … Come on Hexy “--- stop counting the flamin' pimples on ya arse, & get up here & lead the next f@#$%in' pitch , before I ...!!! "
HEX 8-Nov-2004 7:57:51 PM	AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!---he caught me !!! --- how did Onsight climb around the gnarly-blank-cyber-arete like that ??!! ...
Onsight 8-Nov-2004 8:14:45 PM	...with a heel-hook and a slap to a blind lay-away. Twas inspired by watching Steve McClure making the first ascent of probably the World's first 8b+ (32) deep-water solo in Croatia a few weeks ago:
HEX 8-Nov-2004 8:15:03 PM	Now that IS impressive !!! --- it might be water, but if ya fell on ya back from that height ... --------------------------------------------------- Mighty Mouse 8/11/2004 >ya cant go past iron maiden... '...I don't need to see no staaaars ! I don't need Jesus-christ-supa-staaarr-aaaa ... Don't need Sunday tel-aw-vish-aw-awwwwn ! Ya bet ya life I don't neeeed ra-ligg-aaawwwnnn !!! (THUMPING-GREAT-DRUMS'N'BASS) : Do-Be-Do-Be-Do-Be-Do-Be Do-Be-Do-WAAAAAAAAA !!! ...' Just a beer at the Nati National will do fa now ... ----------------------

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