General Climbing Discussion

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The HEX 17-Nov-2005 6:02:28 PM	---------------------- Wearing helmuts Dacrux >Do you see dead people? Topic Date User my toe hurts Friday, 26 November 2004, elmo_lives >Whaeva. >Ill do what i wawn >But anyway, I think I can see dead people, >is it only me that had gained this ability? Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Rich >I see dead people ... > Me too ... icy dead ppl ... --------------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 6:10:34 AM	------------------------ Australian rock climbing is stagnating ... ... Henry Barber 1975 ... ... Wolfy 1985 ... ... Monks/Mentz 1995 ... ... now we need a visit from this kraut to make a 3 month visit ... warming-up with the FFA of Gilgamesh ... obviously beyond HB now ......"Hi H !!! " ---------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 6:15:10 AM	------------------------- Kieran >...even though I had survived a major head-impact from rockfall wearing a helmet - go figure >that one... Were you a grumpy old fart *before *this happened ?? :P ---------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 6:06:10 PM	--------------------------- >5. try and find a shady place you can park the stroller so the baby can get its daytime >sleep. This is probably the hardest part - if they don't sleep, you hear about it. Take >something to keep the stroller dark. The alternatives are; >only do day trips and get someone to baby sit, >one of you does not climb that day and the baby sleeps in the tent... ... and the dingo ... >At araps we have sometimes managed to have a non climber in the group offer to baby >sit, once we have put her to sleep... :O ... a rather radical solution, richard ... -------------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 6:31:55 PM	---------------------- ...dalai senses a rare opportunity to assert his authority ... ........................... Maxots 18/11/2005 >Get helmets and wear them ! Please... ........................... dalai 18/11/2005 12:49:38 PM >I better go out straight away and buy a lotto ticket! dalai 18/11/2005 >Nothing like a religious zealot telling us all to do something! >Glad you wear one, but don't tell me what I must or must not do !!! ... -----------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 6:49:33 PM	----------------------- Jonesy 18/11/2005 >I wonder what they think of all the "mattress backs"... > '... they saaaaay the meeeeeek shall inherit the Eeeearth ...' (Gordy Sumner...)
mousey 18-Nov-2005 7:59:40 PM	what? why should the greeks...oh the meek! oh thats nice, they dont get very much really,do they!
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 8:10:03 PM	----------------------------- STEP ASIDE FOR A MO' MOUSEY !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEWS !!! NEWS !!! NEWS !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT LAST !!! --- 46 YEARZ IN THE MAKING & THE MAESTRI/EGGER , 1959, CERRO TORRE ROUTE HAS FINALLY BEEN RED-POINTED TO THE SUMMIT ..... WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! '...The new route, called El Arca de los Vientos (“Arc of the Winds”), climbs much ground on or near Maestri’s claimed line...' One of the summiteers, almost managed to climb all of the Compressor Route , in the 1990s ... he was 17 at the time ... and so was his climbing partner... --------------------------------
The HEX 18-Nov-2005 8:24:33 PM	>WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
kieranl 18-Nov-2005 8:52:46 PM	On 18/11/2005 The HEX wrote: >Were you a grumpy old fart *before *this happened ?? No I was much worse. That was my second head injury and I've had a personality improvement with each one.
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 2:20:20 PM	Well then, ur on-going cyber-encounter with hexy , constitutes ur third head injury ... what a wonderful ' personality ' you are sure to develop, my friend ! ... I hope this post initiates another ' impovement' for you ;-)) ----------------------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 2:26:51 PM	--------------------- On 19/11/2005 dave wrote: >a Lada Niva > Ahhh,yes--- the Lada Niva ... the Soviet philosophy behind it : '... if one person shall have a f#cked 4WD, then EVERYBODY will have a f#cked 4WD...' > I like this, davo ! ... the wide-tracked T-34 running-gear is what beat the Nazi-hordes , in the snow'n'mud , on the ferociously-fought Eastern-Front-madness ... -----------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 2:39:18 PM	--------------------- trip to mecca (accident @ Arapilies) AlanD 19/11/2005 >As an aside: >How many people take a first aid kit to the crag and have some basic first aid training?... > " ... g...ggooo......GOOD question, dude !!! ..." ----------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 2:54:22 PM	--------------------- neats 19/11/2005 >Nice work Jac, thanks for making us feel like we are there with you!... Too right !!! Climbingjac >I am considering paying big money for the hotel's express laundering service so save >myself the effort of handwashing my filthy fleece vest... Ewwww ... second thoughtz ... :-{~} ------------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 3:05:19 PM	--------------------- superstu 18/11/2005 >Here I am in the tropics >A cold, cold Vic Bitter I pine >With nothing but sweet potato to eat >And coconut palms to climb >Superstu (now living on the north coast of PNG ... with zero rockclimbing potential, >sob) http://www.gly.fsu.edu/~salters/GLY1000/Chapter4/Slide46.jpg Forget about the bloody rockclimbing ... just keep tuning into thissssssssssssss ... Here I am in the tropics A cold, cold Vic Bitter I pine With nothing but sweet potato to eat And coconut palms to climb... Sssqueeeeeeek ...................Sssqueeeeeeek ................. *...sound of hammock in the warm, balmy breeze ...* -----------------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 4:19:35 PM	-------------------------------- >“Sit Start” to Cerro Torre '...As if Cerro Torre weren’t hard enough to climb already, the Slovenian duo of Andrej Grmovsek and Silvo Karo added a long, indirect start to the Compressor Route on the mountain...[red line]... Carrying only their climbing gear, energy bars, and water, they started at dawn and climbed over the summits of Torre de la Media Luna and Torre Pereyra, passing several virgin towers en route. After 11 hours of climbing, they reached the Col de Conquest, the base of Cerro Torre’s standard Southeast Ridge (Compressor Route), in late afternoon, just as other climbers were returning from the summit. They started up again at 5 p.m. and climbed all night in icy conditions, reaching the summit of Cerro Torre at 10:30 a.m. in clear weather. In all, the Slovenian Start traversed around two miles of rock and ice climbing, gaining more than 5,500 vertical feet. The duo blazed this new route in just 28 hours of climbing...' ................................. The standard Compressor Route (My-stree,1970/71 & Bridwell, 1978 ) , usually starts at the Col of Patience (green dot ) via the easy to follow big green arrow painted onto the glacier by Andrew Penny:P The My-stree enigma (1959-2005) follows the blue dotz ... ------------------------------------ Jonesy 18/11/2005 >Don't forget the original gramps team of Gordy & ... uwhp510 12/11/2005 >Hi Damien, >While you are down, we should get together and unilaterally discuss the future of >Victorian cliffs. I am the founder and president of the Australian Council of Biggerer >Rocks Pty Ltd, an organisation devoted to the excavation of earth from the bottom of >cliffs to expose the "sick" moves that are literally underneath our noses when standing >at the bases of routes... Sitstartz.......from the MACRO of Cerro Torre , to the micro of Gordy in da Grampz ... gestaltically, they are the same ... ------------------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 5:02:03 PM	--------------- >gestaltically, they are the same ... While some might think that getting obsessed by boulder-sit-startz, is getting a bit ' anal' ... and climbing Cerro Torre via the red line , way too ' far out ' ... they're actually both quite normal ... This from Sabuz text-book... '...Along with Kohler and Koffka, Max Wertheimer was one of the principal proponents of Gestalt theory which emphasized higher-order cognitive processes in the midst of behaviorism. The focus of Gestalt theory was the idea of "grouping", i.e., characteristics of stimuli cause us to structure or interpret a visual field or problem in a certain way (Wertheimer, 1922). The primary factors that determine grouping were: (1) proximity - elements tend to be grouped together according to their nearness, (2) similarity - items similar in some respect tend to be grouped together, (3) closure - items are grouped together if they tend to complete some entity, and (4) simplicity - items will be organized into simple figures according to symmetry, regularity, and smoothness. These factors were called the laws of organization and were explained in the context of perception and problem-solving. Wertheimer was especially concerned with problem-solving. Werthiemer (1959) provides a Gestalt interpretation of problem-solving episodes of famous scientists (e.g., Galileo, Einstein) as well as children presented with mathematical problems. The essence of successful problem-solving behavior according to Wertheimer is being able to see the overall structure of the problem: "A certain region in the field becomes crucial, is focused; but it does not become isolated. A new, deeper structural view of the situation develops, involving changes in functional meaning, the grouping, etc. of the items. Directed by what is required by the structure of a situation for a crucial region, one is led to a reasonable prediction, which like the other parts of the structure, calls for verification, direct or indirect. Two directions are involved: getting a whole consistent picture, and seeing what the structure of the whole requires for the parts."...' .............. KP >I also heard Sam Edwards was sentinced to five years of bouldering at Oatlands after >he bolted the Saphire Rose @ Fingal. Tough scene indeed... Nothing wrong with that ... as long as Sam can refocus the appeture of his mindz-eye and now establish a new TRAD classic-mega-route at Fingal ... -----------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 5:41:32 PM	-------------------- Mum5 19/11/2005 >Hello Jacqui! Serena has given me a lesson on the internet so we have been sitting >together and reading your webpage. I'm exhausted just reading about your climb! I >read your story about the quick escape and the handshaking affair... good to see >you're always thinking on your feet to get you out of tricky situations. I'm looking >forward to logging on and reading more about your trip. Love from Mum... ... howbout sending her some laundy money ............ and a can of Mace ... --------------------
The HEX 19-Nov-2005 5:58:38 PM	-------------------- Neats >thanks for making us feel like we are there with you! Look down here ... http://www.supertopo.com/rockclimbing/proslideshow.html?gid=13&n=10 Ewwwwwwww..........Errrrrrrrrrrrrr ..........Uuuuuuuuuuugh...................... me feelin' dizzzzzy ...............me eyez rototin' in different directionz ......ver.....tee....go....megunnaspew ... --------------------
The HEX 20-Nov-2005 12:03:06 PM	*wipes old vomit off key board * --------------------------------------- kezza 20/11/2005 ...And freeze some water and leave it in the car.. That way when you get back you still have cold water to drink... Do NOT do this using plastic containers, as the freezing process releases the toxic dioxins out of the plastic and into the water ... oweng 20/11/2005 11:21:23 AM A can of tuna (tuna with zesty vinegarette is the flavour of choice), and a couple of handfuls of savoy biscuits does the trick for me. put them in a ziplock plastic sandwhich bag with a couple of museli bars and you have a small light lunch that wont get soggy or squashed. Yummo. Use toast instead of bread and you can have sarnies that don't get soggy or squashed:-)) --------------------------

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