General Climbing Discussion

Author	Havachatwithhexy...
mousey 22-Oct-2004 6:33:05 PM	is that a gun in your hand, or are you just happy to see it?
Dave C 22-Oct-2004 7:00:24 PM	I was quoting from memory from the '83 Araps guide. I've still got my original copy lying around over here so I'll look it up at home tonight.
HEX 22-Oct-2004 7:02:13 PM	Topic Date User Acupuncture Wednesday, 24 March 2004 At 12:14:26 PM , Mighty Mouse : >i havent had acupuncture but its been on the list of things to do for a while >if it helps improve your sex life, do you think it helps establish one? i've noticed lately >my left arm gets pumped a lot more quickly than the right....eeewwww Mighty Mouse 22/10/2004 6:16:49 PM >right behind ya to gridbolt araps- all this wiggly shit takes away from the climbing >itself. and hanging futons at the belays- i dont want to be uncomfortable any more at >belays. with enough room for the polish lesbians (the type that like guys as well) who, >while i pretend to belay, can feed me grapes and sing. ooh just thinking about it im >gonna chalk myself... Go & get that friggin' acupuncture Mickey !!! , Luv HEX...
mousey 22-Oct-2004 7:18:00 PM	haha, good call
Dave C 23-Oct-2004 6:26:38 PM	On 22/10/2004 HEX wrote: >Stuckintheuk --- you wrote : >>"Ethics are like the wind, here today, gone tomorrow." > >I re-collect Moorhead's quote more like : " Ethics are like the weather >--- here today, usually very different tommorow ..." > Just checked in the old guide Hex - you got the first half right & I got the second. "Ethics are like the weather: here today, gone tomorrow." Mikl's & Mark's introductions to that guide are still classics. > >
IdratherbeclimbingM9 25-Oct-2004 1:02:33 PM	I'm really just posing for the picture with the Hex-Troll. MM; >is that a gun in your hand, or are you just happy to see it? Yeah!, we're a team. H-T spices up the lives of the sport climbers by putting a bit of high caliber adventure into their climbing, and any that make it back down to the ground (intact), have to contend with my wicked antlers! See the smile on my face (hee, hee)! ... (Hide is too clean for having been wallowing in the mud at the waterhole!)
Bourge 25-Oct-2004 1:33:28 PM	Well folks, we are witnessing the first homosexual interlude on Chockstone...he he he, isn't dat cute! A naughty love affair between the Addax and the transvestite >H-T spices up the lives of the sport climbers by putting a bit of high caliber adventure into their climbing and then.. >See the smile on my face (hee, hee)! Indeed, indeed who's been a naughty Addax then!
IdratherbeclimbingM9 25-Oct-2004 1:45:49 PM	On 25/10/2004 bourge de menteur wrote: >Indeed, indeed who's been a naughty Addax then! Bored & demented; You ought to borrow some of MM's chalk!!; ... though it could be my cousin Gnu, ... he likes one-eyed types. ------------------------------------- >Gnu ? --- just don't drag Ng into you little luvers-tiff please ... No 'tiff'; just protecting your runout (of puns) reputation Hex ...
Bourge 25-Oct-2004 1:58:45 PM	>It could be my cousin Gnu. First name Garry?
HEX 25-Oct-2004 3:32:09 PM	Gnu ? --- just don't drag Ng into you little luvers-tiff please ... ------------------------------------ phil box 25/10/2004 >I`ve got a couple of aluminium extension ladders to add to the collection of fixed gear >that should be added to araps. I suggest these ladders should be used on Punks in >the Gym so I am able to climb it. That will take fixed protection to new heights... Philby --- you're 45 years off da pace, dude ! --- The Chinese carried this to '...new heights...' ,(~28,000 ft ), circa 1960 --- long after Mallory (probably) sent The 2nd Step ,free, @ , ~ Gr12 ... Luv HEX ...
gfdonc 25-Oct-2004 8:02:50 PM	Actually that ladder is a new one .. made from BHP aluminium hence in their recent promotional material. - Steve
HEX 25-Oct-2004 8:49:11 PM	Yeah, I know --- good yarn, but ... "The camera would be the definitive clue," says Simonson, alluding to the still-missing Vest Pocket Kodak that Mallory supposedly borrowed from a teammate for his summit bid. "And more evidence could absolutely be found up there." The final sighting of the two climbers—the starting point for the bulk of subsequent speculation—became problematic as Odell equivocated in the days after the climb, unable to decide whether he had seen Mallory and Irvine grappling with the Northeast Ridge's relatively benign first step or the far more difficult second step. Climbers on the ridge today bypass the crux of the second step via a rickety ladder. The only group to ascend it in pre-ladder days, a four-man summit team from the 1960 Chinese expedition, did so with the aid of pitons—equipment that Mallory and Irvine did not have. Everest veteran and filmmaker David Breashears, director of the 1987 documentary Everest: The Mystery of Mallory and Irvine, says there's no way the duo could have free-climbed the second step—and, thus, they could not have reached the summit. "At over 28,000 feet, in an unprotected lead with a bowline around his waist and hobnail boots, and with Irvine on a marginally anchored or possibly unanchored belay stance, Mallory climbs something as hard or harder than he'd ever climbed at sea level?" asks Breashears. "It is not only ludicrous to think they could do that; it is a flight of fancy." American climber Conrad Anker, the 1999 expedition team member who found Mallory's body, agrees. "Saying that they could have climbed the second step is putting the romantic dream ahead of the factual evidence, and that, in a sense, does a disservice to the climbers," he says. "There's just no way they climbed the second step without gear." But Simonson, who returned to Everest in 2001 for an unsuccessful attempt to find Irvine, refuses to rule out the possibility. "On a good day, sufficiently motivated, people do some amazing things,"...
James 25-Oct-2004 10:07:17 PM	>Mikl's & Mark's introductions to that guide are still classics. I like the intro to the current Buffalo guide & the Select Araps guide, but they're the same format. The intro for the harvester thing at Nati on the weekend needs a 2nd viewing. The the intro to Joe Lynch's old Frog guide is a bit different & very cool.
IdratherbeclimbingM9 26-Oct-2004 3:32:03 PM	On 22/10/2004 HEX wrote: (snip) >--- fire-up the BBQ, mate !!! ... " > > Oh my God ... Hex shot Bambi !!
HEX 26-Oct-2004 5:17:43 PM	---------------------------------------------- A5jivebufferzone... --------------------------------------------- Arapiles needs more Grunge !!! ... nmonteith 27/07/2004 >Kieran - where do you propose that climbers dump their waste? Many of them don't >have cars and will walk/ride bikes to Nati a couple of times a week. The Nati street >bins would get weeks worth of rubbish dumped at a single time. Would this be ok? HEX 27/07/2004 ' ... dishevelled climbers with backsides torn from trousers reinforced local speculation that all climbers had tapped into the dole to sustain a senseless existence of drug-induced debauchery. Understandably, this was viewed as a lack of respect for the local community... Retaining a firm grip on reality held little comfort as the mohawked inhabitants of ' the Pines ' thrashed wildly in the mud, blood and beer to the throbbing pulse of the Dead Kennedys... all manner of unpleasantness and the odd local illness have been attributed to climbers--- the latter being along the lines of "it's those bloody climbers, they bring back those weird diseases from overseas !"... The fact that we escaped being rounded up and shot by enraged , white-hooded locals brandishing burning crosses and screaming "death to the weird !!!" , astounds me to this day...' (Glenn Robbins , 1995) >How far DOES Kieran intend going with his ... purification... Arapiles needs more bolts, golden arches, saunas, chair-lifts & MM servicing the que at the foot of Bard, with dorky smile:" Would you like 'draws with that ?! " ... C'mon guys !! --- lets see some respect for our rich heritage ! ...
PN 27-Oct-2004 2:38:29 PM	I am in support of this oddball thread where people can post photos of themselves doing stuff on the weekends. Here's my offerin, Damoss cutten through the pines at the Mont 24hr championships at Kowen Forest near Canberra a few weeks ago (was only entered in a mixed team of six - 4 laps in 24 hours, pretty soft considering many people including a swag of chicks did the whole thing on their own)
HEX 27-Oct-2004 8:03:00 PM	-------------------------- Meanwhile, at THE pines ,during the golden-age of ferals, punks, trannies & all-things-weird'n'wonderful --- Damo could be seen heading-off for his weekly Nati-milk-shake ... ------------------------------------------ Censored : For imagery, picture Damo in above pic , wearing pink tu-tu ... ------------------------------------------ " Oh I like ta have a ' shake at Na-teee !! Oh I like that cream at Nat' ... I slurp in mod-er-ation, Look-out boyz, when I get back !!! " ... --------------------------------------
HEX 28-Oct-2004 12:23:25 PM	Mighty Mouse 28/10/2004 9:50:38 AM >i WAS going to be there from mid november till mid decemeber, BF bailed and mum >says i cant go without someone to go down with (aparently ill get raped or >something...meh) '...without someone to go down with...' Whatever happens ,MM, seems you're planning on doing lots of rootes ... --------------------------- BoaredOfTheRings 28/10/2004 12:38:55 PM On 28/10/2004 alrob wrote: >>ahh, i wouldn't give him any ideas! i don't really want to turn up to >>araps next week and find boared rubbing his testicles all over the traverse >>of bard, as he solos it naked >The traverse on Bard is greased up and porkulent enough, but if you have any oither >ideas on where I can rub my testicles when I'm naked I'm open to suggestions. MM --- your mum has cause for concern ...
deadpoint 28-Oct-2004 4:28:16 PM	Damieta is in da house, did not want to free solo the route, resorted to aid, seconds did the hard night pitches. My respect for you has been eternally damselled. Respectfully Nancy Boy
HEX 28-Oct-2004 7:51:17 PM	------------------------------- ...things that go BUMP in the night ... Soft and Scary The story of Dogface - By Mick Holton The story begins late in 1929 when a mineworker named Arthur Mellor was walking with his mate when he noticed a crack in the ground approximately 100ft (30m) from the cliff edge. The crack was only 1ft (300mm) wide when it was discovered and the pair quickly reported it to the mine management. Within a week the crack had widened to a gap of approx 6ft (1.8m) wide and news of this was spreading rapidly. The large section of rock that had moved out towards the valley became known as Dog Face Rock Sydney newspapers were claiming that the Blue Mountains were falling apart. It was getting out of hand as many thousands of people came to see the crack, stalls were set up selling food, drinks and souvenirs. It became so bad that the Police had to be called in to control the crowds. There were even claims that volcanic activity may be the cause with newspapers reporting that the Mountains may soon erupt. The newspaper reporters waited in the area for the cliff to fall, they all wanted to be the first with the photos and the story but it dragged on too long, they grew tired and finally gave up. Dogface was created when the huge section of Dog Face Rock finally fell into the Jamison Valley on January 27th 1931. No one was near the cliff when it fell that night, it wasn’t even heard by the locals. Mr Ted Hardy made the discovery when he was taking the day’s first busload of sightseers to view the large gap in the rock. He pointed towards the gap, which to his surprise was no longer there. News of the collapse spread quickly resulting in another influx of tourists to view the newly formed cliff. Several theories were put forward with the most likely cause of the collapse being the fact that when the mine below the face was abandoned the props were removed and without their support the ceiling collapsed and eventually so did the massive section of unsupported rock above. Dogface was first climbed in 1964 by Bryden Allen and Ted Batty. Allen and Batty put up Landslide Chimney (18, 100m) John Ewbank developed most of the area with the help of Kenedy, Tyrrell, Davis, Campbell, Pickard and Giles. The climbs are described as being soft and scary. The guidebook “Rockclimbs in the upper Blue Mountains” warns its readers not to trust anything and that its not for the inexperienced. The rock is so soft in places that a desperate climber could scratch a placement with a nut tool. Sand from above showers down onto the belay, often preventing the belayer from looking up. Don’t be too scared, every now and then you can find a placement that’s deep enough or seems solid enough to be classed as reasonable. Be warned - climbing Dogface is a serious undertaking... (Bibliographic reference: Old Leura & Katoomba - A collection of Historical Background Articles - presented by the Rotary Club of Katoomba - 1982.) -------------------------------- '...On 27 September 1996, a 20 m high limestone sea-cliff collapsed on spectators at a school surf carnival at Cowaramup Bay near Gracetown (Margaret River). *They had been sheltering from rain under the overhang* when about 30 tonnes of rock and sand fell, killing nine people (4 adults and 5 children) and injuring three others...' (Ref : Emergency Management Australia ) dalai 28/10/2004 >It's been a long time since I've been out to Cosmic. But I do recall huddling in the very >small cave at the base of the arete waiting for an afternoon storm to pass by. Won't be >able to do that any more!! Andrew_M 28/10/2004 >We were there on Sunday arvo and hid in a cave right about there as a thunderstorm >passed through. Despite the pummeling hail and tree exploding from a lightning strike >just up the valley it was probably safer out in the open and away from the cliff(!) ------------------------------------- Topic Date User Lunar Crag - Apollo Pillar Friday, 27 February 2004 , nmonteith >Apparently sandstone loses half its strength when wet as the water can get between >the grains. This means holds can snap off much easier if it has been raining! ... ------------------------------------ Gluing in The Bluies ?! --- bringiton !!! , Luv, HEX ... ----------------------------------- HOMAGE TO SOLID ROCK !!! ... ----------------------------------

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