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25-Oct-2005 11:08:30 PM
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come bouldering mate you'll love it ... really I promise .....
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25-Oct-2005 11:15:11 PM
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On 25/10/2005 obsessedclimber wrote:
>Rant over….
As a moderator decisions over some things such as spam are not easy. I support Neil’s decisions in this 100%. As far as I can see he’s being as fair to everyone as possible and his willingness to get involved in such decisions is one of the factors that has helped make this such a popular forum and asset to Oz climbing. It’s unfortunate if you don’t agree with decisions in relation to your post. Please remember all the moderators are volunteers who have other things to do with their time as well.
Neil said:
>Why do people feel the need to argue everytime we try and curtail Spam? I don't have the time >to argue this AGAIN at length.... sigh.... It was a warning - if i really didn't like it it would have >been deleted.
The issue of spam is not clear cut, hence my comment the other night which was meant in jest:
On 24/10/2005 Onsight wrote:
>Spam does taste so much better with olives.
Personally I don’t agree that whether or not the person making the post has a direct (or indirect) financial interest in the product or service being plugged should really be the deciding factor. If that becomes the decider then people might just end up getting alias’ and setting up threads very slyly to get their products discussed, and I don’t think that’d be good. I’m quite happy to be upfront about my own interests and accept there might be a few around who don’t see what I’m trying to do the same way that I do.
Anyway, I think a much better criteria for spam is one of relevance and interest. For example, as a moderator I would have absolutely no problem if someone started up a thread to announce that they were about to start publishing a new Oz climbing mag because I think that would be of interest to many and would certainly be relevant. I’d prefer to hear it from the horses mouth and by putting it on a public forum they take the risk it’ll get negative comments. On the other hand I think endorsements for one bit of gear over another are essentially worthless when we don’t know if people interests are being disclosed (and might as well be deleted).
Like I said, it’s not a clear cut issue, opinions will vary. I think we’re getting by OK.
Hey Josh, don’t forget to send us your invoice for plugging my new book the other day.
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25-Oct-2005 11:15:14 PM
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Anyone seen the iRiver MP3 player? Only $399 at JB hifi. Awesome.
http://www.iriver.com.au/iriver/index.cfm?pageID=2&sID=2&
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25-Oct-2005 11:20:03 PM
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On 25/10/2005 Onsight wrote:
>Hey Josh, don’t forget to send us your invoice for plugging my new book
>the other day.
Were cutitng you out of the deal Simon. Holland Press is giving us 50% of all profits generated if we keep
plugging your book online. I think you might only get 1% of the rest of the profits after Boniwell gets his
Chockstone cut. Sorry 'bout that but that's business.
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25-Oct-2005 11:21:40 PM
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But...
*sob*
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25-Oct-2005 11:25:00 PM
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Hey Simey#2! - hows the cafe going? Feel free to give it a plug...
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25-Oct-2005 11:29:45 PM
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off to bed now... Got a full day tommorow shooting a Just Car insurance Ad. Good product that....
http://www.justcarinsurance.com.au/
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25-Oct-2005 11:38:38 PM
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On 25/10/2005 Onsight wrote:
>if someone started up a thread to announce that they were about to start
>publishing a new Oz climbing mag
hehehe ... testing the waters are we, maybe something lurking in the wings
;-)
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26-Oct-2005 12:08:32 AM
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FAAAAAAAR OUT! I second the 'chill pill' call whoever made it.
Well done to obsessedclimber for keeping the mind open and also his willingness to take responsiblity.
To those so intent on smashing him: What's the quote? 'Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor'.
Good to see the new thread created. Although the hippie sentiment behind the statement doesn't sit well with me, its always good to 'share the love' when it comes to discounted gear.
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26-Oct-2005 12:17:37 AM
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On 25/10/2005 Tel wrote:
>hehehe ... testing the waters are we, maybe something lurking in the wings
Sorry Tel...
No, really. Not that I know of. Just an example.
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26-Oct-2005 9:46:20 AM
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>Addax-addicted deleted a post under here ... >most unusual ... >next he will be rapping down CQ to de-mystify the essence ,spirit, etc,etc,etc... >did I mention 'herr-a-tige ?...
I recognised a good cyber-flow concept-thingy happening at the time and decided that my post was an interruption to a good thing, so hence the deletion. Yes it’s rare. I won’t repeat the post as it was not integral to your theme which I am intrigued by, and the deletion was within minutes of posting so it’s within the mod-proposed time-limit for editing!
>did I mention 'herr-a-tige ?...
Nein, or should that be nicht?
LOL
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>wow....i mean, wow!
... but unlike JCP, I did read it all.
obsessed
Since you have quoted me I feel a need to clarify.
>Another product plug with link.
Where is the link? I don’t work/sponsored, for/by any climb related company/retailer, and I did not mention the store name. Yes, I mentioned a climbing brand name but this was at the time it was becoming a non-exclusive franchise.
>Would these posts count as advertising for Paddy Pallin and Black Diamond? >Its recommending cheap gear to other climbers (which I did with my post for MD) at Paddy Pallin, which to me looks like it would be in direct competition with Steve and Rock Hardware which undermines his sponsorship of this site (which my post does not). >Correct?
No.
Context ? Check the date of the post. I think you will find it’s before Steve had access to retail BD gear …
>The threads I have highlighted above have no mention/warning/flaming for SPAM and either benefit the poster (or there mates) or undermine Steves relationship
(snip)
>the boys club included
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Will it help if I post it now??
Warning:
I am a climber. I like and use Chockstone. I talk about climbing, and things that are involved with climbing on that site. Let the reader beware!
:P
I think the mods are doing a good job, and also think that a good percentage of your angst is from jibes coming from other Chockstone users, (you might notice that I have not been one of them?), … though I think the sarcasm (beyond humour) could equally have made the point without the abundance …
I respect your attempt to get what you perceive as a problem clarified, but I suspect that to many of us it is not a problem*.
(*It would become so without the mods and current actions).
Your integrity is intact. As such I wouldn’t go and delete old posts as they were valid at the time, and any associated issues have been sorted.
I have no issues with your enthusiasm and awareness-raising re products climbing related, (as long as they don’t look like a blatant advert), … which I think you have done well in finding the balance for in your posts.
:)
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26-Oct-2005 12:49:52 PM
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Addax-Troll
>I recognised a good cyber-flow concept-thingy happening at the time and decided that >my post was an interruption to a good thing...
OOOOOOOOOOyeeeeaaahhhh ... at last ... ur finally responding to hextherapy ...
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26-Oct-2005 12:51:30 PM
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On 25/10/2005 shiltz wrote:
>Will the Hex become dormant again when the magic 2000 milestone is reached?...
what r u referring to ? ...
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26-Oct-2005 12:55:01 PM
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On 25/10/2005 James wrote:
>we'll find out later tonight after another session of hex-drivel...
Addax-TROLL notes
>Interesting how the stats jumped upon Hexs return; was running on about 350 posts >per week but jumped to 500-ish ...
>The Hex is obviously good for business ...
James Profound-Thunder --- for someone who u-sta post so el-a-quent-ly , urv become rather etc,etc,etc ...
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26-Oct-2005 1:00:15 PM
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On 25/10/2005 JCP wrote:
>i hope so!
Hexy not sad:-(
Hexy happy:-)
Mousey has finished cleaning-out his bedroom , is growing-up ... under the warm&fuzzy&... armpitz of Rodw&Simey#1 ... & is trying to put his hexy-dolls into the good-samaritan bin ... but the addiction is ...just...tooooooooo...
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26-Oct-2005 1:03:12 PM
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
FAAAARRRRQQQUUUEEEE !!!! --- these over-night bananaz are everywhere ...
GOBBLE,GOBBLE..........................BUUUUUURRRRPPPP !!!...pffftt*sneaky-fart*...hehehe
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26-Oct-2005 1:05:27 PM
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errm, i think Neil's cracked....
not to mention several people are now sulking in their rooms.....
i think everyone needs to cool down, go climbing!!
the mods are doing a good job, how bout make their job easier by avoiding talking about gear that you (im talking to everyone not singling anyone out) sell and their prices etc.
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26-Oct-2005 1:05:30 PM
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On 25/10/2005 gfdonc wrote:
>Oh Dear! Let's not gedda headevaselves shall we! We've all still got
>those rappels to finish eh Neil?
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SHEYEZZ !!! --- now these a red mark above the carabina ! ........... ur right about that , Da crux !
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26-Oct-2005 1:07:44 PM
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Sabu --- if u nice to hexy ... say hello to Steph4me...hehehe ... I will try to convince JCpeeniz to giv his hexydollz to u ;-)
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26-Oct-2005 1:10:54 PM
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obseessed
>######## FLAME RETARDANT BUFFER#######
EXCELLENT addition to the CS language,dude! ... and thanx 4 using this ...OUR ... thread ala the intention as etc,etc,etc in Havachatwithhexy post#1 ...
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