General Climbing Discussion

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The HEX 8-Oct-2005 1:49:01 PM	------------------------- steph Online Now 8/10/2005 1:38:38 PM >Or open A's depending on how shiney the platter becomes ...??!! ....................... Reference,Snip,blah,blah... Sabspu >HENCE therefore I WIN Because i LOST the most: my ass got delivered on the >BIGGEST and Shineist Platter?!?!? .............................. If as much mod-deleted comes out of Sabuz mod-deleted as comes out of his cyber-mouth then it ain't gunna be real shiney, eh ?? Whatz the story, anyway ??...ur both on-line ... uz using the same keyboard ?? ----------------------------- --------------------------
steph 8-Oct-2005 2:09:14 PM	nah im at work Hex. unlike some obviously.... hehe so hex where u been for so long mate? i won't go so far as to say we all missed u but it certainly wasnt the same...
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 2:12:01 PM	XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX(cyber-security-razor-wire)XXXXXXXXXX On 26/06/2005 alrob wrote: >ok, so it lat and i jut got bac from da pub! tri to gess the moooooooovirtes! A Private Message to Alrob ... Dear Alrob , I notice around that time you were caught in the oppressive-WM-dominated-Club-500 ... ur random, alc-ar-holic-late-night cyber splurge was clearly a desperate (& successfool..) way to break-out... good 4u ...you obviously arse-pire to being in the Millenium-mix... HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY ! --- whocouldblameya:P...however...going stupid the other day and up-setting the feralz on CragX was not a good move... ya fairly melted off the crimps that time, bro ... you have a lot to offer... even if you do look like that dude on Home&away who is sliding his cam into 'Tasch' ...be patient, my cyber-friend ... The HEX runzon HIGH-OCTANE... tune-in grass-hopper...THINK... don't let KP leed you astray, up those chossy-cyber-off-widths...LISTEN to ur buddy Neil , don't just 'hear' what he has to say to you... XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 2:15:32 PM	----------------------------------------------------------- On 8/10/2005 steph wrote: >nah im at work Hex. unlike some obviously.... hehe so hex where u been >for so long mate? i won't go so far as to say we all missed u but it certainly >wasnt the same... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... this is getting ooooozy,babe ... my cyber-fling with Richard was rad enuf ... Sabu will have cyber-smoke coming from his earz... :D ----------------------------
steph 8-Oct-2005 2:24:00 PM	On 8/10/2005 The HEX wrote: >----------------------------------------------------------- > >On 8/10/2005 steph wrote: >>nah im at work Hex. unlike some obviously.... hehe so hex where u been >>for so long mate? i won't go so far as to say we all missed u but it >certainly >>wasnt the same... > >OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... this is getting ooooozy,babe ... my cyber-fling >with Richard was rad enuf ... Sabu will have cyber-smoke coming from his >earz... > >:D > >---------------------------- ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
IdratherbeclimbingM9 8-Oct-2005 5:09:49 PM	>Feedback (pro or con) welcome. Thanx for airing the issue TH. >Yeah,yeah, nevermindthequibblez,4legz, Neil makes no mention of the belay-pieces ripping out in the event of a fall ; therefore (thus--- to use Jacz fav word) Copperhead Road is A5 max (according to tha American definition of A6---see Beyer etal,blah,blah) ; therefore/thus... >A5 = M8 >...& therefore/thus... >...itz no more than M8,eh...awwww A?... Context is a wonderful thing TH. As you are no doubt aware from aid grade discussion/s (selectively quoted from threads of that time), it was also pointed out that Australia does not share the heritage of a bunched up grade system or the luxury of massive walls upon which the egotistical can pontificate about “you gotta die before A6 becomes reality” by ripping marginal belays etc. If those arguments held sway with the general (USA) climbing community; then why is it that A7 came into being thus (sic) effectively bypassing A6 ? Yeah, yeah, alpine walls and all that … but the point still stands, because they needed a criteria to delineate (even alpine) hard aid walls, & which also reflects advances in technology (beaks, cam hooks etc). It seems to me that the new wave USA aid grade criteria is now (if not eventually), heading toward yet another wave of makeover because the pundits are already having difficulty distinguishing between bloody hard & scary, really bloody hard and scary, and truly bloody hard and scary. Jim Beyer is/was a guru of hard aid, but it’s taking the masses a while to catch up. How did he cope with the scrunched-up top end grade differentiation? He expanded it of course ! He still ran with subdivisions in between grades but also added a few to the mix. It did not catch on, I suspect mainly because not many were bold enough to repeat the routes or stick their necks out on the controversial issue of grading them. We have a perfectly simple system for both free and aid grades and unique cliffs that lend themselves to our system. The South Africans would possibly be the closest to our circumstances, and I gather they also view the Ewbank system favourably. It’s only an unconfirmed rumour that CHR is graded M9 in the new Buffalo guide, but if it is, I applaud the concept. It’s a shame Gareth and Shaggy as second ascentionists did not give a published opinion as to its grade. History has shown that HB is reluctant to blow his own trumpet* so it’s difficult to ascertain a grade from the first ascent? I doubt Jim Beyer is going to repeat it any time soon …, maybe Tony Dignan ? (Geoff Little was his belayer on the crux pitch of Clouded Queen). *Reluctance to blow ones own trumpet is exactly the reason the yanks find themselves in their predicament of bunched aid grades. If they do trumpet a hard new climb then their subculture takes the tall poppies to task rather than applauding the achiement. Yeah, the potential in Oz is for similar, but I don’t think we have collectively sunk that far ... yet. >HOWEVER !!! --- my friendly-Friday-eve-jibe was intended to motivate your tse-tse-ridden-carcass up CHR --- it seems to be working ... where will u b nye this year ... Thanks for the encouragement TH, though I consider myself already moving down that path. I originally intended to work my way up through the grades, but as of last season decided to short circuit the process and get on both Clouded Queen and Copperhead Road this coming season. It really is the only way that I will be satisfied with the grade nuances at that end, because otherwise the information is hearsay. The flow on effect will be a reasonably accurate grading of at least one major new aid line I have my eye on. On 8/10/2005 The HEX wrote: >---------------------------- >A5M8-Troll wrote (with one hand on the key-board & the other under the >desk...) >>As a mark of RESPECT and admiration for the route... > >If ur fair-dinkum, dude, then howabout throwing INTEGRITY into da mix, >and go and abseil down A3 Sport Climb , and fill in the drill holes ... >The Gorge will have a much better ambience ... Clouded Queen etal ? ... >"Earth to Geoff Little !!!...? ..." > >------------------------- You have little respect for our history with that suggestion TH. Even with your (I assume) predisposition towards ‘A’ grades I doubt your suggestion if it was aired in Yosemite for their equivalent climbs would gain much credence. It's up to the 1st ascentionist to make that call, while they are still around to defend or wear the consequences of their action/s. Besides they are not my routes, and if they were I'd be miffed if someone retro'd them in any fashion. IMO if they went back and filled the bathook holes with rivets or dare I say it, full strength sportclimbing bolts, then both those climbs would lose their ‘ambience’ (sic). Even Royal Robbins acknowledged Warren Hardings efforts on the Dawn Wall by changing his mind about chopping bolts across blank sections that linked natural features. Bathooking IS a fact of our present heritage. I prefer to keep our history even if it has controversial aspects. >A5M8(hez been down-graded) LOL It’s alright TH, as the intent of my moniker is something of a milestone for me to aim at. I am getting closer, … so M9 (even if not yet publicly realised) is still something (for me) to aim at … If anyone else (or indeed myself), ever achieve putting up one of that grade, then I will change it to M10, M11 etc. I have enjoyed this facet of the game. You can have your thread back now to cast out the flaming nasturtiums on various characters if you see fit to do so through the cauldron vapours! :) --------- >Don't go just yet, toss-pot... Yapommieheritage is showing thru. ... waiting expectantly. --------------- That's it ? I waited for that ? ... I'mgonnatakethedogforawalk! By the way. I agree Lake Pedder ought to be restored to its original condition, ... sowhydonchagetonC'scasetarestoreMechanicalAnimals? or (insert similar atrocity?)?
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 5:26:49 PM	------------------- Don't go just yet, toss-pot... ... *The addax sips patienly from KPz water-hole as The HEX retro-edits ... ... A5M8 or is that A6M9?(aaaaarrrrggghhh !!! ......splat !!!)-Troll wrote : >Its up to the 1st ascentionist to make that call. LIKE F*CK IT IS !!! ............ like itz up to Eric Reece etal to 'make the call' about wetha Fake...errrr Lake Pedder should be drained-down to itz original level or not:-{~} ... A5+=M9 perhaps ...you &Simey#1 need to attend Sabuz maths tutorialz;-) -------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 5:54:51 PM	---------------------------------- >LIKE F*CK IT IS !!! Errrr... I think I sent that thru cyber-space a bit too vig-or-ously ... '...Dozens die in huge quake From: Agence France-Presse By Rana Jawad in Islamabad October 08, 2005 Pakistani rescue workers and volunteers gather / AFP AN earthquake measuring at least 7.6 on the Richter Scale sowed terror across parts of Pakistan, India and Afghanistan today, causing "huge devastation" and bringing warnings of heavy casualties. The quake struck early in the morning almost directly on the dividing line between the Indian and Pakistani controlled zones of Kashmir, sending terrified residents fleeing into the streets in towns and villages across the region...' :O ---------------------- >That's it ? >I waited for that? >... I'mgonnatakethedogforawalk! Thatz it , my dear-boy! --- SIMPLICITY is a POWERFUL thing ... so now that I've educated u , we won't be seeing (too much more of ) ur lengthy-hypo-crit-ical-drivel about drilling/chipping ethics, which you ponder while u lamely 'climb' up drilled-holes on formerly-pristine-granite/moss faces..."RUFF RUFF !!! " ... yeah I know ... ur not saying The HEX speaks rough ... u just wanna drag the addax over to his 'climbing' rack so he can have a THINK about those bat-hookz... -------------------- ------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 7:10:48 PM	On 10/05/2005 HEX wrote: ------------------------------- Topic Date User Best excuses of all time Saturday, 9 April 2005, JCP : >yer....im pretty guilty when itcomes to bleeding on holds, espcially >since im allergic to the adhesive in finger tape (and hell...i walked in >so ill be damned if a >little bloods gonnastopme climbin)... .......................... With all the chat about gym-climbing, I am etc,etc,etc that no one in Australia has ever raised the issue of contracting horrible,life-threatning vivuses from gym-holds smeared with plasma & blood ... gotta be a MAJOR issue now with the number of ppl using humid-bacteria-virus-thriving gyms, eh ?... Outdoors ? --- ever had the second arrive at the belay ledge with a silly-grin and blabbing-on about cutting their finger and " aw sorry about the blood on the carabiners, mate:-) "... AID climbing is a minority sub-sport, practiced by leppers using leapers, so they tend to be safely isolated from the broader climbing community ... but with 20,000+ ppl in Australia carry-ing HIVAIDS, you really need to start wondering who is lined-up in front of you on that next gym-climb ... Luv HEX & da grim reaper ... Muhahahahahahaaaaaaaaa ! ... --------------------------- 8/10/2005 : the visual extension ... ---------------------------- Thanx for sharing this one with us , Dan ... Nevermind needle-sharing-punkz-in-the-gym ... just make sure ya tape-up REEEEEAAAAALLLLL good at Buffalo this summer ...even if ur soloing;-I ----------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 7:27:16 PM	------------------- Kerrotorre 8/10/2005 >Is M9 related to M8?... Sort of ... M ate itself and then what was discharged into the toilet was the now very confused M9 ... -------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 7:33:23 PM	--------------------------- http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=3&MessageID=2239 No THIS is interesting...mwuhahahahahaaaaaaa!... Dalai : Last posted on 27/09/2005 at 8:58:31 PM Last logged in 4/10/2005 at 12:14:40 AM The HEX re-in-car-natez: Tuesday, 4 October 2005 At 10:42:10 PM Any-one seen the latest Eminem video ? --- with the hand up the glove ?... Nevermind the distant speculation that Mike was Hex-TROLL ... who really HAS got their arm up The HEXz b#tt ??!!... " DOYNG!!! DOYNG!!! DOYNG!!! " ................................................. " Daaaaa-leeeeeezzz-gaaaarrrrnnnnaaa-spew,hex..." ------------------------------------- -------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 8:00:22 PM	------------------------------- Kerrotorre 8/10/2005 >Yes that means a lot. Conversely it feels really bad when you don't trust and it's not >worth climbing at all. I've felt the difference and it's massive... You sooooooooooooo need to discover bouldering, dude...no ropes to worry the fragile lil mind of yourz with ... Tel --- herez a new partner for you ... but then again Kerro will have to trust u to spotforhim ... ---------------------------- --------------------------------------- -----------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 8:10:41 PM	----------------------- Nice pic, Philby ! --- good to see Robbie Williams has stopped terrorising the middle-class with his 'music' ... and has now become a competion-gym-climber:D ---------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 8:20:40 PM	----------------------------------- Topic: particularly offensive words philbox Replies: 159 Views: 3160 Tue Oct 04, 2005 >So how much objectifying and disrespect for women is this thread showing. Nice one >guys, keep it up and there will be no women left on the site. I`d rather see the girls >enjoying their experience here ... Philby --- me an' the sisterz on CS can handle the nwaughty-course-aussie-vernacular , here , but that Kerro'z creepy-cyber-stalk-vibe is getting a lil bit un-nerving ... --------------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 8:29:49 PM	----------------------- The HEX LittleJames ShinToe Warrior Nick Kaz Splat -------------------- WELL! WELL! WELL! --- look whose on-line ! WERE NOT WORTHY !!! G'day Splat !!! If anyone can free CHR itz you , dude !!! :-)) ------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 8:36:56 PM	>And thats it. So get your sh*&^t together, book a ticket and get over to Perth for the >30th, Itll be a hell of a day, one which will be forever remembered through the pages of >climbing history... Yeah , and The HEX has already had a stern word with that Edd character, about leaving the f#cking chalk all over the rock/bush environment... tell Edd his pages of history will be toilet paper unless... ----------------------------------
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 9:04:10 PM	--------------------------------- Kerro takes-up an invitation to go bouldering with Tel, Telz-funky-mates, and A5M8-TROLL'z dog ... " R U watchin' me TEL ???!!! " :P
KP 8-Oct-2005 9:17:57 PM	golden streak ?
IdratherbeclimbingM9 8-Oct-2005 10:05:13 PM	>SIMPLICITY is a POWERFUL thing >..."RUFF RUFF !!! >THINK On 16/05/2005 HEX wrote: >...................... >Telz going in(sane) & Climbauz coming out ... >Climbau --- you're really crying/screaming into the void with this one, >son ... I strongly believe most of that negativity can be solved with a >motor-bike-with-side-car & a dog ... > >Luv HEX ... >------------------------------ On 8/10/2005 The HEX wrote: >WELL! WELL! WELL! --- look whose on-line ! > >WERE NOT WORTHY !!! > >G'day Splat !!! > >If anyone can free CHR itz you , dude !!! > >:-)) Hex wrote 12/08/04 -------------------------------------- >Oh I like ta have a beer with A5 >Oh I like ta have a beer with whereitsat ! >We drink in moderation >But I never let him belay >cos I know everything will go >F@#$% bloody SPLAT !!! >We drink at the Nati-National >Where the atmosphere is great ! >I like ta have a beer with A5 >cos A5iswhereitsat !! >------------------------------------ On 16/08/2004 HEX wrote: >Oh I like ta have a beer with Wonder-dog >Oh I like ta have a beer with the bitch(?) >We drink in moderation >When the tail starts to wag > ' The HEX ' gets a twitch ! ... >We drink at the Boona-par-ar-b >where the atmosphere is great ! >I like ta have a beer with --- I'm so over-whelmed by one of your rare >appearances Wonder-dog !!! --- yes indeed , don't let us forget one of >Greg Child's awe-some new El Cap routes , where they spent the night ,2000 >feet up , hanging-off pitons , nailed down the back of a 3metre-by-3metre >'biscuit'... > > Luv,HEX... ... Think TH (any puns unintentional ... what else can you expect from a glasshopper that's confused ?) 8-O
The HEX 8-Oct-2005 11:36:03 PM	On 8/10/2005 A5M8-TROLL referenced&spinned hexyz brilliance &added f#ck-all else... >>SIMPLICITY is a POWERFUL thing >>..."RUFF RUFF !!! >>THINK > >On 16/05/2005 HEX wrote: >>...................... >>Telz going in(sane) & Climbauz coming out ... >>Climbau --- you're really crying/screaming into the void with this one, >>son ... I strongly believe most of that negativity can be solved with >a >>motor-bike-with-side-car & a dog ... >> >>Luv HEX ... >>------------------------------ > >On 8/10/2005 The HEX wrote: >>WELL! WELL! WELL! --- look whose on-line ! >> >>WERE NOT WORTHY !!! >> >>G'day Splat !!! >> >>If anyone can free CHR itz you , dude !!! >> >>:-)) > > >Hex wrote 12/08/04 >-------------------------------------- >>Oh I like ta have a beer with A5 >>Oh I like ta have a beer with whereitsat ! >>We drink in moderation >>But I never let him belay >>cos I know everything will go >>F@#$% bloody SPLAT !!! >>We drink at the Nati-National >>Where the atmosphere is great ! >>I like ta have a beer with A5 >>cos A5iswhereitsat !! >>------------------------------------ > >On 16/08/2004 HEX wrote: >>Oh I like ta have a beer with Wonder-dog >>Oh I like ta have a beer with the bitch(?) >>We drink in moderation >>When the tail starts to wag >> ' The HEX ' gets a twitch ! ... >>We drink at the Boona-par-ar-b >>where the atmosphere is great ! >>I like ta have a beer with --- I'm so over-whelmed by one of your rare >>appearances Wonder-dog !!! --- yes indeed , don't let us forget one of >>Greg Child's awe-some new El Cap routes , where they spent the night >,2000 >>feet up , hanging-off pitons , nailed down the back of a 3metre-by-3metre >>'biscuit'... >> >> Luv,HEX... > >... Think TH >(any puns unintentional ... what else can you expect from a glasshopper >that's confused ?) >8-O > ...because he relyz on The HEX to do all his THINKING for him ... ...urv gone back to grade7, with Obsessedclimber,now .........Savanah-breath... :D ----------------------------

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