General Climbing Discussion

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HEX 23-May-2005 1:13:29 PM	------------------------- Neilo : >This post relates to a once prominant user who has requested that his account be >deleted and all his 200 or so posts removed. >What do others think? ........................... FatBoy 29/12/2004 '...I sold out. I f---ing sold out. And I’m pissed. I was going to live the life of the true climber, travelling from crag to crag in my piece-of-shit car, climbing every day – except for rain and designated rest days of course. No responsibilities, no cares, no rules, no liabilities, no worries. Just human friends, mechanical friends, chalk, a rope … the odd ‘biner or three. Who wants a mortgage ? Not me. Who wants to work 40 hours a week ? Not me. Who wants someone else telling them they can’t go climbing ? That’s right, nomme. But it hasn’t happened like that and I’ll be stuffed if I can tell you exactly why. It probably has something to do with me being too stupid to realise how much climbing meant to me at the time. Or it could be the fact that I’ll pretty much say or do anything when I’m chasing a girl. Sometimes these actions come back to bite you. Sometimes for instance, you might actually catch the aforementioned girl, get a full time job, stop climbing, get engaged, get a house, get a mortgage, get married, get another house, get another mortgage, have a kid, get another house, get another mortgage, all the while working 6 years in the same job you don’t really like to pay for the two mortgages you have. Just for example. God I miss summers at Araps. Not even sure what it’s like now, I assume it’s roughly the same. Mornings started when the sun made your tent unbearably hot. And never before. Breakfast soon after then off to a cool gully since everything else was too oppressively hot. Did Syrinx on a 30 degree day early on in my travels and nearly died. I’m sure that’s why Dogger’s gully was so popular. A little bit of actual climbing, a lot of talking climbing. Geez I could talk it up. Back to camp, into my shitbox Celica and back to Nati for a milkshake – they’re not really any better than anywhere else but they seemed better at the time. Further on down to Toolondo if we were feeling frisky – it had water back then – afternoons back to try a couple more routes maybe, possibly some hacky sacking. Dinner was always that instant pasta that tastes like crap with those overly rich ready made sauces. Hey, I’m not reminiscing fondly about the quality of the food here. Heaps more talking – lots of it with strangers, and less about climbing as the night wore on. Increasingly pretentious conversation until the fire which always came in my direction convinced me that sleep was the option of choice. Get up, someone’s moved out of a prime campsite. I upgrade. Inherit a few tarps to support my massively sunbleached tent. Between all the tarps and my tent, it may keep the rain out - if it ever rains - it may keep the sun off longer and keep me in bed another hour tomorrow morning. That’ll be fine. I never packed up my tent when I left to go back to the big smoke. Always left it for the next visit – couldn’t afford to let go of the prime spot. I figured I was in the 2nd or 3rd best spot in the gums, which crapped all over the pines. Never got that great spot that Dave seemed to live permanently in. Come to think of it though, I never brought it home, is my tent still there ? And the thing is, there was there was never a conscious decision to stop climbing, it just happened – bit by tiny friggin’ bit. So let this be a warning to those of you who haven’t sold out yet. If you follow the path of least resistance – my path - you’ll end up like here: fat, bitter, not climbing, and wishing all the while that you did. It’s hard to be a climbing bum, but I admire those who do. Nobody asks whether you want to grow up. If they’d asked me, I would have told them to piss off and let me enjoy my instant pasta. Merry Christmas everyone and save travels in the new year to all here...' ........................... & how IS fatboy thesedayz ... I think this sort of stuff is highly theraputic ... for everyone ... -------------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 2:02:21 PM	-------------------------- ......................... '...As the angle rolled-back, we unroped, ignored the tourists gaze and laughed hysterically ; then we tore out of the place in a cloud of red dust. It had taken Ayers Rock exactly a hundred years to have a second major climb established...' Just a bit of 1973 Noddy-GOLD to juxtapose all the winter misery oozing out of the now aging Generation X ...cheer-up everyone ! --- the ski/snow/ice season startz soon ... El Ninyo willing ... ---------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 2:40:23 PM	------------------------- Rick carey Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 '...I don't really think you know what you are really debating, this psuedo intellectual discussion using flawed ethics does not excuse the abuse of my friend at a crag or this level of argument. There are a lot of more serious issues facing us and the world. Had it not been for the action of myself, Jamie, and a few others you would not have Booroomba to climb on at all, it could have been permanently closed after the fires, where were the voices then? only a few spoke out. This so called debate can only give fuel to those bureaucrats in society that would see all adventure sports banned, and there are plenty of those. We need to encourage participation, get people involved and active. Only then will we see reductions in lifestyle related conditions such as Diabetes and Heart disease, that is the big picture. Every person who takes up climbing because it is safer and more interesting is one less couch potato and less for us all to pay in taxes to support their failing health. More people will be active if safety and access are improved. If thats what it takes, then so be it (Mens Sana Incorpore Sano) Mind, Body and Spirit Lets not forget the Spirit Rick Carey Teacher Outdoor Education @ CIT...' ................................ nmonteith 23/05/2005 >hmm - i know of plenty of teachers [who] have taken much worse drugs than steriods! VERY liberal attitudes/laws in the ACT ... peace-out dudes ... (ah-hem --- there is no implying,accusing, suggesting in this post.) -----------------------------
(removed) 23-May-2005 3:01:36 PM	On 23/05/2005 HEX wrote: >& how IS fatboy thesedayz ... Yeah, all right. Still doing tri's ... off to Hawaii in October, still miss climbing. That's pretty much it.
HEX 23-May-2005 3:23:23 PM	Goodta 'hear' from you Fatboy, yousexybeefcakeyou --- I hope you and the other 200-posts-posterz realise the significance of your contributions to Aus climbing ... farrrrk ! --- itz only been cyber for a couple of years... future gens will luv this ' era ' (if recorded) and NOT regard it as an error ... Have fun : http://www.rockclimbinghawaii.com You might even be able to hire a motor-bike-with-side-car while ya there ... Luv HEX:-)) -----------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 3:42:02 PM	---------------------------- ------------------------- Topic Date User Kent go crazy... Monday, 21 February 2005,KP : >i cant believe richie was banned from chockstone. A little heavy handed i think. >Probably for the best though, he was becoming a bit delusional... http://www.mrppp.com.au/nhb/reports/22012004/pages/226.htm Yeah, well at least it IS possible to watch re-runs of Happy Days, Kent ... flushing your posts down da gurgla was very ... oh ... I just spotted the flannel-shirt ... -------------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 3:58:35 PM	I wouldn't know, Benny;-) --------------------------------- brat 23/05/2005 >On 23/05/2005 nmonteith wrote: >>On 23/05/2005 climbingjac wrote: >>>Nope... don't think they'll be wanting a teacher who is >>>suspected of taking drugs..... >>hmm - i know of plenty of teachers of have taken much worse drugs than >>steriods! >I thought it was a prerequisit! For whom ... '...Just about anyone that comes into contact with an addict risks being harmed. Many members mention their parents, spouses, children, boyfriends, girlfriends, other addicts, casual acquaintances, co-workers, employers, teachers, landlords, and total strangers. A problem many of us seem to have with the Eighth Step and the admission of the harm is the belief that we were victims, not victimizers, in our addiction. Avoiding this rationalization is crucial to the Eighth Step. We must separate what was done to us and what we did. We cut away all our justifications and all our ideas of being a victim...' The friggin' stuff is everywhere !!! Red-cordial-sugar at one end & Keef's 'Brown Sugar' at the other ... -------------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 4:15:32 PM	-------------------------------- BUMP !!! .................... Shintoewaz : >I heard a rumour that Stefan Glowacz is coming to Melbourne/Oz to do >a talk/slideshow/plug red chili etc. >Does anyone know if this is true, and if so when will he be here? ........................... Latest Detailz : .......................... “An opportunity not to be missed!!” Stefan Glowacz will be in Australia and presenting breathtaking slide shows from his climbing all over the world Melbourne Show Monday June 20th Casey Theatre, RMIT. 7.30pm Tickets available from: Bogong Equipment The Wilderness Shop $20 Adult $15 Concession ---------------------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 4:31:30 PM	-------------------------- Mike : >The idea that I myself, as site owner, might be personally responsible for what a >thousand people say on a bad hair day, is not a little bit scary. I certainly hope this is >not the case! If it is, though, then whoever owns rec.climbing could be in for stormy >weather... nmonteith 23/05/2005 >People should only be only editing for tone and read-ability. 24 hours is heaps of time >for a massive flame war to erupt. In 14 days the volcano has exploded, and the town is >rebuilding again. I think two weeks is just too long for people to meddle. If you havn't >cooled off in 24 hours then maybe you need to get proffesional help! Snigger !!! --- yep Hexy wreakons 24 hours is da go ... -------------------------- Maybe have a cooling-off period for moderating, too --- 10 minutes rather than ten seconds ... Onsight : >Sorry Lee, didn’t mean to imply that was sexist, I know how you feel about those >issues, I was largely having a dig at Neil for his censorship earlier in the day (cause I >believe that thread would have eventually self corrected)... --------------------------
manacubus 23-May-2005 4:47:18 PM	I love it, I''ll be reading this thread and see something that might pertain to me, and then can't find Hexie's original source. Oh well!
HEX 23-May-2005 4:56:06 PM	--------------------------------- >http://www.jimschrempp.com/images/jokes/msoftkids2.jpg " Just when we thought you were in our league, Lee !!! --- use the search function ya dork !!! " ---------------------------------
manacubus 23-May-2005 5:12:44 PM	Search functionality that works huh? What a concept! Should have known you would be probing the bowels of history to come up with that one Hex (Aug 2004). I don't remember what I had for breakfast let alone what went on back then.
HEX 23-May-2005 6:42:23 PM	Cube-arse --- clinical studies have shown that memory-loss is strongly linked to the use of m.................aw nevamind ... ------------------------- Philby : >That said we are trying to build a civil society yet still trying to maintain the campfire >feel to the place and part of that appeal is to rag each other out. This has always been >a part of climbing culture... Topic Date User ASHES TO ASHES , FUNK TO FUNKY... Saturday, 31 July 2004, HEX : >Robbins continues the vibe : '... The early days of prolonged encampment amid the >dying pines of Mt Arapiles have often been likened to the last days of a Burke & Wills >expedition, in which there were no survivors though much discomfort , craziness and >despair . Wholesale desertion by partners , loss of direction, motivation, perhaps >sanity being the least of one's exasperations....People were so horrible to each other >during this period that the only safe refuge from animosity lay in the deep , dark >recesses of the crag --- which accounts for the staggering number of new routes >recorded. Climbers returned to camp and tent under cover of darkness to avoid >intolerable periods of fire-side casting of aspertions, covering everything from climbing >to cooking ability. The smouldering embers of many a young hopeful's ambition were >stomped and stirred into the ashes of this dumping-ground of broken hearts and >shattered dreams... Ooooooooyeeeeeah ... gotta luv that ' campfire ' feel, Phil ... just gotta be aware that someone might slip the occasional un-opened-can-of-baked-beans into the fire, and then cheerfully walk-away;-) -------------------------------
HEX 23-May-2005 7:12:44 PM	------------------------- SABU >agreed but wat about the risk factors of listoning to ur ipod instead of various important >calls from ur belay or climber?? (assuming ur not bouldering) i think it would be a >stupid thing to do as it places both of you at risk... Jono: >Some delicate moves were required to negotiate the rock wall that was only made >possible by a slither of ice. With my crampons scraping at the rock and my tools in >ice that threatened to peel off I could feel my focus turning to fear but I managed to >keep it together. I set up a good rock anchor and signalled to Neil on the 2-way... I like this solution ! ... & then sing sweetly to ya head-phone-wearing-partner from the belay-ledge to get them thru the cruxy-bitz:-) -------------------------------
nmonteith 24-May-2005 9:05:40 AM	Whilst I was mid crux on a horrible granite slab route in tassie, Jono used the 2-way radio to say such useful things as 'heeeellooo neil this is the rock talking - you will never climb me, turn back whilst you can, i will hurt you' ect ect. Not very useful!
manacubus 24-May-2005 9:29:14 AM	LOL! Good medicine in the morning.
Romfrantic 24-May-2005 9:40:18 AM	On 24/05/2005 nmonteith wrote: >Whilst I was mid crux on a horrible granite slab route in tassie, Jono >used the 2-way radio to say such useful things as 'heeeellooo neil this >is the rock talking - you will never climb me, turn back whilst you can, >i will hurt you' ect ect. Not very useful! 2-way radios and useful chat...he hehe...reminds me of last year at a particular snow trip - at one point audio was so bad, the only thing we used them for was to "chat" to eachother in Martian (...think martians from "Mars Attack")....funny at first, sounded just like in the movie - but the joke then died pretty quickly...anywayz....
PN 26-May-2005 2:23:47 PM	Aaaaaaaaargh! Hex's back... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HEX 26-May-2005 2:27:06 PM	BREAKA !!!, BREAKA !!! --- This is the Rubber HEX ! --- Chockstonegottacopy ??!! ............... damos 26/05/2005 >An older, more mature D George Micheal tried selling that image to the public ... just before he got caught , trying to chat-up a male-cop in a public toilet ... Don't grow up too quick, Damey ........................hehehe ! ------------------------------------------- " Awww, vwerwy funny,Hexy !!!"...............
HEX 26-May-2005 7:02:58 PM	--------------------------------- Onsight 26/05/2005 >Post whatever completely irrelevant crap you want here. sabu >wasnt the irrelevent crap supposed to stay on HEX's thread? Yep, always happy to do a bit of gargage-munching&mulching to invigorate the wider forum ... -----------------------------------------

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