General Climbing Discussion

Author	Havachatwithhexy...
HEX 28-Sep-2004 4:32:17 PM	On 28/09/2004 A5iswhereitsat wrote: >There is a troll in all of us ? >I'm off to the oubliette* to get over them! -------------------------------------------------- On 14/04/2004 hex-TROLL(in Cauldron) wrote: > ' Might as well face it , you're addicted to [HEX] ! ' A 5's ex-ass-perated response(read " SHEESH !! ") : >You are right (again) Hex-Troll (legend in ones own cauldron). >Time I had a reality check, ... and go climb a cliff (solo) again. Take care, bro ---Hey, there's still some room in the snow-cave for a smelly-addax or two !... Luv hex, Hex-TROLL & HEX ; On 12/08/04, A5 wrote(in Scariest Moments thread) : >...fortunately s/he is a survivor of the 5th dan and keeps coming back... Compliment acknowledged&appreciated, A5... ---------------------------------------------------
HEX 28-Sep-2004 7:31:34 PM	----------------------------------------- ...Mean-while,rumour has it that a rather plump-faced-Shannon-Noll-look-a-like is making a night-time, (to take advantage of the crisp snow&ice cond's), blitz-kreig-solo of The Torre'... While the madness continues inside the 'cave, said soloist sticks his head in the door... " You talkin' ta me Hexy ?! --- yair , you're talkin' ta me ... " Foto : rc.com&N.M. ... ------------------------------------------- At last the weather starts to clear ... Foto : mountainzone.com ------------------------------------------ Foto : cosleyhouston.com ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------ & NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ...
HEX 29-Sep-2004 9:51:47 AM	On 23/09/2004 Onsight wrote: >On 22/09/2004 HEX wrote: >>Now, THIS is the pic I was originally referring to --- hope ya don't >mind >>TOO much, Onsight... >Don't mind at all Hex... Thanx,bro ! Luv HEX...
HEX 30-Sep-2004 3:03:17 PM	GARTH @ NOWRA ( Prior to Attack-Mode(32) becoming extended to 34 ?...) Garth reflects on his days/daze as a rock-climbing-troll ... : ' ... When you bullshit all the time, it weighs you down ; but that's in the past and I've had to learn from that and move-on. When you feel more relaxed about achieving , then you can actually achieve more ...' Foto : Onsight ; Text : Rock-mag. On 12/05/04, Cameron/Gorilla wrote : >The Troll/s have since either left or reformed, by the looks of it ... Hmmmmm , Luv, HEX ... ---------------------------------------------
HEX 8-Oct-2004 12:19:40 PM	------------------------------- Be careful who you vote for tomorrow --- Mark Latham wants to '...roll-back hecs...' ... Re Rock # 60 : James --- those grey-school-pants are horrendous !!! ; Kent --- you could easily get a job as a ' santa ' with that big, bulbous, red'n'angry nose ! ; Baxter in the editorial : ' ...thousands of key-boards must have been worn-out , arguing the pros and cons [snigger ! ] of ...'etc,etc,etc --- He's clearly a closet Chockstone-junky-lurker/in lycra ? --- but as ' The HEX ' has noted before : Camp-fires, Mags, E-banter --- there's room for them all ( to blend ...) Mike --- the ' private messages ' function is excellent&funky --- HOWEVER --- one tends to wonder, to what extent will it enhance or DILUTE what actually gets ' said ' on the ' open/public ' forums ...yeah,yeah,I know, big-brother --- " It's all good ! " --- Let's hope so... Excellent graphics, lay-outs, photos(goodonyaonsight...), etc,etc,etc in Rock 60 --- congrats to Baxter , for movinwithdatimes & to Ben ' rovinman' Cossey , for not being intimidated/headf@#%ed by Chockstone... Luv HEX... ------------------------------------
HEX 8-Oct-2004 5:36:35 PM	It started with a beer at the Nati pub ?! --- ' Willow ' ?! --- this suggests that maybe it really got started with a milk-shake @ Mrs D's ! --- Goodonya Dicko ! Luv HEX...
Onsight 8-Oct-2004 6:22:15 PM	Welcome back Hex (I was starting to get worried…). On 1/10/2004 cameron wrote: >On 1/10/2004 Mighty Mouse wrote: > >>theres only one of us and theres plenty o meat to be had if the right >>person is hungry... > > >Naughty mouse....may the native Arapiles female of the species be warned >of your impending arrival!! Naughty mouse all right. ‘Dem mice just have no control… On 4/09/2004 Onsight wrote: >On 31/08/2004 Mighty Mouse wrote: >>yeh yesterday i handed in an 11 month research paper on the visual intrusions >>of climbing >I'd be interested to see what you came up with sometime. On 4/09/2004 HEX wrote: >Me too...--- please post a brief summary, for dissection, on Havachatwithhexy... How 'bout it MM? I’m particularly interested in the Visual Intrusions Vis-à-vis Access Issues aspect…
IdratherbeclimbingM9 8-Oct-2004 7:10:28 PM	dalai said >A5 - another suggestion - drop the comma after html... Thanks. Got the right info this time.
HEX 10-Oct-2004 3:47:09 PM	-------------------------------- > I wonder if this is how Damo & Bourge are feeling at the moment ... Damey : " Damn you Hexy !!! --- you always find a way ta give me a pain in the neck !!! "... On 31/08/04 Bourge wrote (in Big-Bro-Evictions) : >"Fark! or should I say le Farque!" ... --------------------------------
HEX 10-Oct-2004 6:36:35 PM	On 08/10/04, Kent wrote : >With a title like this i thought it had to be the return of the legendary damo... Like Dr Mengele and Ronny Biggs before him , Damo has been sighted livinitup in South America... " Hey Hexy !!! --- Check-out this ditty I bin workin'-on withdaboyz !! " "Oh I like ta have a beer with the moderators ! Oh I like ta have a beer with da mods !! We drink in moderation ... ha !!! "
HEX 11-Oct-2004 11:58:18 AM	---------------------------------------------------- On 11/10/04 , Onsight speaks/responds in cyber-person : >Apparently the threat above included something about decapitation... HEX to Billy Connolly :" fa fooks sairks munnn --- dorn't sairr a single waaard !!! " On 31/08/04, Adski wrote : >HEX, you're hilarious. and on-topic!! I think I'm 'cutting' it a bit fine here, dude ! ... ---------------------------------------------------- STREWTH !!! --- What's the story, Wobbo ?! --- are you a venting-Latham-supporter ! ... Now let's all channel that aggro & angst into a productive , exciting climbing/climaxing context ... Here's a (true) short story to purge all that fightorflight adrenalin ... > '...Denz decided to try Cerro Torre by himself. “So far I have had seven attempts at soloing Cerro Torre [via the Compressor Route],” Denz wrote in a letter home. “The last one was nearly successful.” On that attempt, Denz invested two stormy days chipping a coffin-shaped cave into the Ice Tower (a granite-cored, ice-plastered buttress that is slightly detached from the main wall 2500 feet above the glacier), then spent five days inside. Twice he climbed within 250 feet of the top; storms vexed both efforts. >Not satiated, Denz returned to Cerro Torre for the 1980-81 season, this time with the premeditated intention of soloing. He chiseled his hardware to the bare minimum and left basecamp with four days of food, wallowing through soft spring snow for 16 hours to reach the natural ice cave,[see foto on P.5 of this thread], at the Col of Patience. The weather fouled and Denz spent a day waiting. The barometer nudged up overnight. Denz climbed to the Ice Tower and found the site where he had whittled his cave the year before. The fourth day he climbed to Maestri’s compressor, which remained suspended only 150 feet from the top. Clouds, rime-coated rock, and the gale thundering over the top of Cerro Torre drove Denz back to his Ice Tower hole, but by noon the following day, the clouds had blown away. Denz moved his bivy to the top of the Ice Tower, right at the base of the headwall. >Cerro Torre’s headwall, notorious for Maestri’s bolts spaced two or three feet apart up 500 feet of blank rock, doesn’t actually start with a bolt ladder. Denz began his sixth day with 50 feet of jittery free climbing. A fresh rush of storm swept in just as he reached the first bolt. Denz ballasted his etriers with pitons clipped to the bottom steps, girded for yet another all-out summit bid, and climbed the bolt ladder. >Cold crept into his soul. Wispy feathers of rime ice grew on the rock. “I got to the compressor and the weather really started to cut up rough,” said Denz in an early 1980s slide show. Denz was six days out on four days of food. He had already eaten his last scrap. The fifth bolt above the compressor was the last of Maestri’s bolts. Denz couldn’t find Bridwell’s rivets beneath the gray carpet of rime. He spotted some incipient cracks to the right and swung over. He was stemming off a rime fluting, trying to pound in a Snarg, when the fluting collapsed. Denz tumbled across the face. He went out right again and fished a wired stopper into a crack, then reached around a small corner. >The wind was insane. His gear and ropes were iced, Denz himself frosted. He had three Friends. He dropped one, then leapfrogged the remaining two up a crack. The wind whipped up one of his etriers, including the heavy nest of pitons clipped to the bottom step; they whacked him behind the ear. The crack pinched down to a seam. Denz thought he could connect to some rime flutings. His highest placement in the seam was a #1 RP. He top-stepped and could just reach the lowest fluting. He drove one axe, then the other, into the rime and did a stormy chin-up. The whole fluting sheared off. Denz went flying, tore out his RP, and was fielded by the stopper, the only other runner he’d left behind. >“I had to call it quits right there,” said Denz. “I just couldn’t do it.” >Denz struggled back to the compressor and started rappelling. Time and again his ropes stuck. Unbelayed, he had to repeat most of three pitches to undo the tangles. >While he was downclimbing on easier ground near the bottom, a small avalanche swept Denz off his feet. He failed to self-arrest. “I rolled myself into a ball with my hands around my head, and hoped for the best,” he noted in one of his letters home. He slid 700 feet, dropped over the 30-foot lip of the bergschrund, and “ended up in a stunned heap in the snow basin below.” Shattered, Denz needed two days to travel the eight miles to base camp. (Normally, the trip takes about six hours.)...' (Ref : Climbing.com ) Bill Denz ,& the late, great Mark Moorhead, were killed on the West Buttress of Makalu (8,500+m) , in 1983...
HEX 11-Oct-2004 5:30:09 PM	On 8/10/2004 HEX wrote: >Mike --- the ' private messages ' function is excellent&funky --- HOWEVER >--- one tends to wonder, to what extent will it enhance or DILUTE what >actually gets ' said ' on the ' open/public ' forums ... Wobbo vs Onsight ?! This isn't QUITE what ' The HEX ' had in mind... *NOT* ' LMAO ' ...well, maybe just a little bit ...
IdratherbeclimbingM9 12-Oct-2004 11:29:41 AM	> '...Denz decided to try Cerro Torre by himself. “So far I have had seven attempts at >soloing Cerro Torre [via the Compressor Route],” Denz wrote in a letter home. “The >last one was nearly successful.” An inspirational recount from a HARDMAN indeed.
HEX 12-Oct-2004 6:53:49 PM	Denz thinks to himself as he sits in that snow-basin, trying not to scream in stone... I fell from a great height and floated in space somehow I was separated from the human race my thinking and feeling were retuned for me sometimes it's worth questioning your sanity © Edward de Bono Creative Team 1997 ------------------------------------ Jens, 12/02/04 : Wow, there are so many well read people here. Makes feel inadequate  I like and thank you for your suggestions, Mighty Mouse. I will have a look for DeBonos book. I like to learn more about different ways of thinking, as this helps to know myself and others better. (Also helps me to rationalise anxieties when I’m on the mountain) Tel : Edward DeBonos lateral thinking is also a very good book if you like that sort of thing, it is a bit like a work book you can go back and forwards through it to develop this "lateral thinking". MM , 10/10/04 : '...unburdened, crawl towards the pines/the animal park/the crag/the lavoratories and finally the tent.... then come back and we'll talk numbers....' Adamk : ' ...Sometimes the distance between experience and articulation seem too big to span --- particularly with something so all consuming as a climbing-road-trip, where you and your buddies travel around in a bubble that contains your own culture , language, humour, and actions, that are spider-webbed together with the threads of subtlely beautiful moments...' Adz --- you are clearly streets-ahead --- A true master of the lateral... Luv HEX & Bono: " It's a bu-tif-al daaaaaayyyy !! --- Don't let it slip a-waaaaayyy !!! "
HEX 13-Oct-2004 12:29:05 PM	Onsight --- ' ...agenda... ' ? Kieran ( when hex&hex-TROLL were initially stoking-up The Cauldron) : >'...I don't know what your agenda is or who you are but I despise you ! ...' Kieran starts to get comfy with the ' agenda ' on 20/09/04, when he starts to accept HEX as part of the Chockstone cyber-scape & follows with mesmerized-intrigue, like a great-white shark up a tasty/fragrant burly-trail ... >I'm glad to say that I don't have the foggiest idea what this thread is about or where it is going. Hopefully it continues in the same direction... So when that next big, juicy chunk of ' agenda ' emerges from the fog , at the head of the burly-trail , just take a nice , big bite and gorge ya selfs --- ' The HEX ' promises there'll be no nasty-sharp-hooks hidden inside .... A5, April 2004 : >You do indeed move in mysterious ways... Maybe --- but as Baxter high-lights in the editorial of Rock60 --- it is the Australian climbing-culture that is NOW moving in mysterious ways ... ethics&attitudes ; people&places , are ebbing 'n' flowing all over & anywhere ... Perhaps Piggy(01/07/04) sums-up HEX's ' agenda ' better than any ... creature ... : >'...entertaining at best. whimsical mainly...' Suddenly !! a huge dorsal-fin breaks the surface and starts to carve the smooth waters... who can it be this time ...
HEX 13-Oct-2004 1:35:44 PM	BINGO !!! --- bourge/Damo can't resist the bait and is starting to wonder what that metallic taste is in his big, fat gob !!! >Hex has totally lost it Wednesday, 13 October 2004 At 1:26:54 PM bourge de >menteur >Hullo, bonjour! Allo! >Ha! >And in the background (over there on the perimter thread), Hex is going quietly insane, >posting to himself some bloody waffle. Damo was straight jacketed long ago, Hex is >next >Ha! Enjoy that '... bloody (polly) waffle...' , dude !!! Luv HEX & Captain Quint...
HEX 13-Oct-2004 2:01:14 PM	Bore-ge >I propose this thread as a memorial thread/lounge where punters can step in for a >break, a cool refreshing drink and heap some on Hex Hey !!! --- that's what this thread is for !!!
HEX 13-Oct-2004 2:03:20 PM	On 4/09/2004 HEX wrote: >In order to keep all other threads neat'n'trim'n'relevant, please post >all random thoughts, flack'n'spray, trollings, etc,etc,etc on this ' shock >absorbing / garbage munching ' thread. > >' The HEX ' shall end-dev-ore to restrict ' The HEX ' to this thread >only... > > Looking forward to all things weird&wonderful... > >Luv HEX, SPRING 2004... > >----------------------------------------- BRINGITOOOOON !!! ------------------------------------------- >Was around at Damo's woody last night, jeez some of those problems are hard. I was >feeling really streong for about the first 3 moves and then forearms were all swollen up. >In response to your PMS request (??) might post up some woody photos, Hex Lookin' 4ward to 'em, borgy ! -------------------------------------------
IdratherbeclimbingM9 13-Oct-2004 2:07:35 PM	I reckon bourge de menteur is skiing* close to the wake for a thumbs down from moderator/s for personal attacks... (*Unsuccessful trolling for white pointers? ... try water skiing instead)! Goodonya Hex for restricting the waffle to 'one-only-theread' (pun intended)! So; ... are there any ice caves in Aust. or has Cerro claimed them all? -> Do we need one at the Asses Ears? Will we cook in our sleeping bags? PS cooking at a hanging belay is even riskier !
HEX 13-Oct-2004 2:18:39 PM	On 13/10/2004 A5iswhereitsat wrote : >Goodonya Hex for restricting the waffle to 'one-only-theread' (pun intended)! It's quite amazing that the gratuitious trolling , accusations , pers-attacks etc,etc,etc have actually increased and in INTENSITY (eg Wobbo) since Hexy 'restricted'... >So; ... are there any ice caves in Aust. or has Cerro claimed them all? Was it last year that 4 snow-boarders were found less than alive in the remains of a melting snow/ice-cave , in the Oz-Alps? ...

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