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tyrolean traverse

cjradloff76

23-Nov-2011
10:25:31 AM

ive decided not to do it now at the moment.

widewetandslippery

23-Nov-2011
10:27:51 AM

Coward. You should show them like tjhe wright bros did.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

23-Nov-2011
10:39:18 AM

On 23/11/2011 ww&s wrote:
>Coward. You should show them like tjhe wright bros did.

If I remember my history correctly, they had a crash didn't they?

On 23/11/2011 cjradloff76 wrote:
>ive decided not to do it now at the moment.

Tyroleans or the recce?

If you are talking tyroleans by yourself, then that is a good call to at least postpone it Clinton, until you have enough experience gained under tuition, to undertake your project safely.

Save up your money while researching guided adventures that run ropecourses for the general public.

You will probably find that they have fun tyroleans in a controlled environment that will safely give you the thrill you desire.


Sonic

23-Nov-2011
11:02:10 AM

Dude you are seriously in over your head.

I am NOT pulling your leg here.

You need far more specialized equipment like a chest harness, pulleys, rigging plates, etc to do a 120+m traverse. You obviously dont have this gear or the ability to use it and a recreational abseiling course is not going to give it to you.

You are going to seriously injure yourself or worse if you do this right now. You clearly have no idea of the gravity of what is needed - for instance trees are no longer really a suitable anchor for what you want to do here.

Do us all a favor and drop it - unless you really want to become a statistic.

cjradloff76

23-Nov-2011
11:03:36 AM

OK. i not doing it now.


Sabu

23-Nov-2011
11:10:50 AM

On 23/11/2011 cjradloff76 wrote:
>OK. i not doing it now.

A very wise decision Clinton.

Please note though, we do want to encourage your interest and pursuit of outdoor ropework but we want you to be safe as well. That is why some of us have advised you to not go ahead.

I highly recommend you try things out using a guide or professional company to get out there safely and have some fun.


Cool Hand Lock

23-Nov-2011
3:30:15 PM

Sounds like awesome fun.
I set up stuff like this for work. Although in a much more controlled environment, offshore. And have heaps of gear for the setup. Let me know if you'd like to come to Arapiles and I'll show you how to do it properly and how to get yourself back to the ground, once your stuck in the middle.
Plus there are a few spots around arapiles/grampians where you could set a large Tyrolean.

One Day Hero

23-Nov-2011
4:51:09 PM

On 23/11/2011 Sonic wrote:
>
>You need far more specialized equipment like a chest harness, pulleys,
>rigging plates, etc to do a 120+m traverse. You obviously dont have this
>gear or the ability to use it and a recreational abseiling course is not
>going to give it to you.

What the fuch are you on about? You don't need any of that shit! Sure, it might make things easier, but you could do it in total safety without that 500 bucks of gucci nonsense.
>
>You are going to seriously injure yourself or worse if you do this right
>now. You clearly have no idea of the gravity of what is needed - for instance
>trees are no longer really a suitable anchor for what you want to do here.

That's pretty rich! So, if he finds a 40m high eucalypt which is 1.5m across at the base, its not a suitable anchor? Get thy head out from thyne arse!
>
>Do us all a favor and drop it - unless you really want to become a statistic.

Queensland dude, don't drop it! Put it on the backburner for a while and learn a few skills. Its not rocket science. Its just that there's a bunch of stuff you haven't thought of yet, and you don't want to first realise that you haven't thought of it when you're hanging in the middle of that zawn.

rolsen1

23-Nov-2011
5:03:49 PM

On 23/11/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 23/11/2011 Sonic wrote:
>>
>>You need far more specialized equipment like a chest harness, pulleys,
>>rigging plates, etc to do a 120+m traverse. You obviously dont have this
>>gear or the ability to use it and a recreational abseiling course is
>not
>>going to give it to you.
>
>What the fuch are you on about? You don't need any of that shit! Sure,
>it might make things easier, but you could do it in total safety without
>that 500 bucks of gucci nonsense.
>>
>>You are going to seriously injure yourself or worse if you do this right
>>now. You clearly have no idea of the gravity of what is needed - for
>instance
>>trees are no longer really a suitable anchor for what you want to do
>here.
>
>That's pretty rich! So, if he finds a 40m high eucalypt which is 1.5m
>across at the base, its not a suitable anchor? Get thy head out from thyne
>arse!
>>
>>Do us all a favor and drop it - unless you really want to become a statistic.
>
>Queensland dude, don't drop it! Put it on the backburner for a while and
>learn a few skills. Its not rocket science. Its just that there's a bunch
>of stuff you haven't thought of yet, and you don't want to first realise
>that you haven't thought of them when you're hanging in the middle of that
>zawn.

ODH's best post.

Agree

One Day Hero

23-Nov-2011
5:14:55 PM

I've always had my suspicions that some of the regular posters on this site were total pussies.

Just because someone has "10 years of climbing experience", it doesn't mean that they have the skills or balls to do something like what cjalphabet is keen for. Therefore, in order to sustain their personal reality (in which they're all skillful and cool), it follows that no one else can be allowed to do anything outside that little bubble of stuff which the "experienced climbers" are capable of.

I reckon a couple of months pissing around off trees, including some serious prussick training + a crash course in yr10 physics + a Full Metal Jacket style drumming about the importance of rope protection...............that should do the trick.

About 3 months into my climbing, I saw a wildlife doco about rainforest canopies......got all inspired to climb big trees via bow and arrow and kite-string and prussicking. Me and my co-shanker mate went out and trained all over canberra experimenting with all sorts of "techniques". It was very non-orthodox but not particularly dangerous.

Let unusual people with unusual dreams do their own thing!

widewetandslippery

23-Nov-2011
5:23:46 PM

Totall Pussy goes +1


nmonteith

23-Nov-2011
5:27:14 PM

On 23/11/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>About 3 months into my climbing, I saw a wildlife doco about rainforest
>canopies......got all inspired to climb big trees via bow and arrow and
>kite-string and prussicking. Me and my co-shanker mate went out and trained
>all over canberra experimenting with all sorts of "techniques". It was
>very non-orthodox but not particularly dangerous.

All the trees in my parents backyard and local park sport long lines of machine bolts which i hammered in and aided up as a 15 y/o.

>Let unusual people with unusual dreams do their own thing!

Agreed!


ChuckNorris

23-Nov-2011
6:21:11 PM

"All the trees in my parents backyard and local park sport long lines of machine bolts which i hammered in and aided up as a 15 y/o."

Should get mikl to test how these perform over time.

tariadamar

23-Nov-2011
6:34:34 PM

i would have to agree. yes it is great to have the dream to do this treverse and is not overly dangerouse if you have the appropriate trianing. i would say go and get that training not just off the internet. i know their is some companies down around sydney that would do private outdoor climbing and stuff leasons. find one in bribane tell them your plans and they will run you through everything you need to know about setting one up and run you through it all.


ChuckNorris

23-Nov-2011
6:34:44 PM

You want the truth of why ODH aint helpin this fella?

He has no fricckin idea. However, Bomber pro could get him across the zawn in a jiffy.

Where are you bommer? I keep a callin but you ain't respondin. Help me out and put all these amateurs in their place - I know you wanna do it. Life's too short to give in to self restraint.

Olbert

23-Nov-2011
6:41:52 PM

When I first got my harness I also got two prussic cords, and tried to fix my brothers old swing.

My brother had an awesome swing in the bush that many people fcuked themselves up on over time. It was a pretty hectic swing! It was around for years before one of my friends badly bruised his back by doing something silly on it. My brother decided enough was enough and he cut the rope as high as he could from the ground - basically it was fairly impossible to reattach a seat.

Years later I got my harness and got some prussics and had a brilliant idea to prussic up the rope and reattach another rope so we could rebuild the swing. Basically it was about 10 metres from the ground and the ground itself was a steep 45 degree angle super muddy slope ending in a rocky creek at the bottom. I managed to super awkwardly attach the prussics to the rope and attach the shorter one to my only locking caribiner. From there I managed to prussic up the rope (absolutely no previous experience prussicing - just saw the knots in a book).

I got to the top and transferred my locking caribiner to a random loop hanging down from the tree (part of the original setting up of the swing). And yes, this meant for a moment I was not attached to anything. I then took off the smaller prussic and was about to chuck it too the ground when I thought - "why not keep it? I might need it later". I then used a roll of string to measure how much new rope I would need for the swing. Once measured I dropped it as I would no longer need it.

Job done I put the getting down part of my plan into action. I pulled out my belay device and attached that to the biner I was hanging off, as I mentioned it was my only caribiner. Then I attempted to attach the free hanging rope I had prussiced up to my belay device and biner so I could rappel down in the normal manner.

This did not work. With a growing sense of panic I could not get the rope in the device ready for abseil with the biner already being used to support my weight. Try as I might I could not get it to work. I was doing some pretty dodgy things trying to force one rope in and the other bit of rope out.

Eventually I realised I could prussic down just like I had prussiced up. With a huuuuuge relief (thoughts of death were occuring to me as this part of the bush was not well frequented by people) I managed to prussic down and return home with my tail between my legs. I completely forgot about the string and had to return later to retrieve it (my dad was wondering where it was).

I never did fix up the old swing.


deadbudgy

23-Nov-2011
7:07:55 PM

cool story bro


ChuckNorris

23-Nov-2011
7:17:26 PM

OK after some serious thinkin I'm gonna chip in another 300 bucks to the first person to help this fella span the gap. But contest only between da bom and da hero, and a TR is part of the deal.

I'll refund bus fares to brissy to the winner only - as long as you both promise to use your seniors cards to get a discount.


Miguel75

23-Nov-2011
7:50:07 PM

This thread rocks. I've neglected to read it for ages though thoroughly enjoyed the read this afternoon.

Good on the OP for doing what he can to gather knowledge about an activity he's keen on. And good on him for realizing when he's a bit out of his depth... Don't give up on your dream mate.


shortman

23-Nov-2011
9:44:22 PM

On 23/11/2011 fukface wrote:
>
>OK after some serious thinkin I'm gonna chip in another 300 bucks to the
>first person to help this fella span the gap. But contest only between
>da bom and da hero, and a TR is part of the deal.
>
>I'll refund bus fares to brissy to the winner only - as long as you both
>promise to use your seniors cards to get a discount.

The Get Clinton Across the Gorge Fund now has $600.

C'mon Chockstone!

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