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Use of the Black Diamond ATC vs OTHERS	21-Jun-2008 At 4:15:20 PM	Icarus
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Hi! I've got a Guide, and use it on 9.8mm and 10mm ropes. I reckon its pretty good, and is basically worth the weight and bulk. I use it in guide mode every time I belay a second up a pitch, and I think its a terrific feature. Smooth, easy to set up and makes assisted hoisting of the second easy. It can also be used as an ascender which doesn't chew up ropes. But, the extra rings add weight, (plus it uses two beiners in belay mode). I've used normal ATC's as comparison, but never a Reverso (either new or old). Dan EDIT: for the record, The guide is 105gms vs. 72gms for the new reverso.

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