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Recommendation on best all round draws? 10-Oct-2014 At 10:32:16 AM Wendy

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If you want them in the next 2 weeks, I'd go into your nearest store and get whatever looks good at a good price. Or try an Oz online retailer that will get them to you within a few days.

I have lightweight wires on everything and just pull out a dozen of my old school biners if I'm going to be anywhere with bloody carrots.

WHat i have off the top of my head:

BD Oz - can't think of any complaints with them, although you could probably get cheaper.
WC heliums - probably too expensive to justify them really.
WC things like heliums but without the clitoral hood feature - probably the best choice if you want an affordable full size biner
Mad rock helium copies - these are actually a bit smaller than heliums but they are also pretty good.
WC some ultra light ultra small thing (xenon lite) - there is a point where too small is bad. Anything smaller than the Oz seems to fall in that category. I use them for the gear end of my draws, but they suck for getting the rope into in a hurry.

I am an advocate of mostly short draws, a few moderately long draws, a few tripled over 60cm sling draws and a few more slings around the shoulders. I wouldn't fuss with medium length draws, they are almost always no improvement on either the short or longish draws.

All my slings and draws are dyneema style stuff, no more nylon. modern biners are often shaped for narrow slings anyway. And I hate that fat petzl style draw, if they even make them anymore.

Bugger the revolvers, they cost a fortune, weigh a tonne and good rope management should resolve any problems

Post edit: having just got my rack out to get ready to go out this arvo, I also have photons, cyphers, some dmm light things and those red and blue omega pacific things. The omega pacific ones aren't that great or that light, but the red ones do make good wire biners. I think the point of the exercise is to say that anything of the size and weight that you prefer (once you've worked that bit out!) will be fine.

On the hook vs key vs clitoral hood gates - I don't tend to have problems with the hook often enough to be stressed about it. once is a while it might catch a wire in it. I'm not fussed about it enough to prioritise it in my choice of biners.