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Metolius Anchor Chain? 18-Mar-2014 At 2:01:45 PM Climboholic

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On 18/03/2014 patto wrote:
>On 18/03/2014 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>>There is the crux of it! ... ie a daisy isn't necessarily a belay anchor
>>(but can be a perfectly acceptable personal anchor), whereas the PAS
>aims
>>(amongst others) at the belay anchor market.
>
>See, I would even argue against their suitability as a personal anchor.
> They were never designed for this purpose nor are they particularly good
>at it.
>
>I still encounter numerous people who think daisy chains are made to be
>personal anchors. This is BAD. Many don't understand or know about the
>issues with stitched pockets.

I disagree, except to concede that daisy chains may have originaly been designed for aiding. Does everything on your rack have a mutually exclusive purpose? Just because you can hang off it with a fifi hook, doesn't mean you shouldn't clip it to a belay.

You made a blanket statement that daisy chains are BAD, without giving any reasons except idiot-proofing. Have you actually thought about your statement, or do you just have faith that the existance of another product justifies the need? What makes a daisy chain unsuitable to clip into an equalised anchor?

The PAS is yet another example of a cultural shift towards dumbing down of climbing, with the expectation that people are not responsibile for their own safety. I have no problem if people choose to use a PAS, just don't ignorantly pass judgement on others for not following your doctrine.