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Accident at Arapiles: November 9th 24-Nov-2010 At 11:11:59 AM gordoste

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Yes inexperienced climbers are overrepresented but that's not what he said - he said people climbing low grades are overrepresented. For someone experienced, climbs are equally safe no matter the grade.
So his "refuse to help people climbing low grades" question is not at all the same as my "refuse to help people who don't wear helmets" question because climbing low grades is not inherently dangerous.

Anyway, I am still interested on how the non-helmet people would answer my question. ODH has tried to pretend that his question is equivalent and therefore that my question is just as silly as his. Hopefully I've explained why his question is not at all equivalent.

Another way of posing the question: Imagine you're busy belaying someone on a pleasant well-protected climb. Somebody arrives and starts soloing a hard testpiece next to you. They start sketching out while about 15m up and you are expecting any moment to have them land next to you while you're still busy belaying your partner. Is it fair for them to put you in that situation?