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Canyoning death in Blue Mountains 15-Jan-2010 At 10:30:51 PM J Qui

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I certainly don't have an exaggerated sense of my own importance or abilities. Am I important, no, and
my abilities are far from superior. Moving along.

The two hour rule (not a rule, a guide - and I never said it was hard and fast) come from many WFA
and RAFA courses. These concepts form the basis for wilderness guides. The basis for it, when it is
broken down, is because after heaps of research, they realised that anything over this time frame has
the potential for more serious consequences. Beyond two hours first aid must be implemented, which
includes consideration toward more expedient retrieval, which may include the use of beacons.

Your response each time is merely stating assumptions of arrogance and, letting people do it their own
way. Nice.

There is no supreme authority with it. I mentioned it once and attached some rationale with it. The
sense of supremacy... it's all yours.

Not once have I stated that this is the only way, so stop banging on about it. It merely has the
potential to be a safer way in many circumstances.

I agree with you, those who choose not to carry one need not be more reckless that those who do. In
fact, the other side of the argument suggests that those who choose not to carry one are often more
prepared, better equipped, better educated in self rescue, navigation and all skills - not having to rely
on a beacon. This unfortunately is not always the case, obviously.

I'm glad you're not pissed off (not really, i don't really care :-)), your tone certainly implied a sense of
pissedoffedness!

You keep diverting from the point in note, and that is, that perhaps the canyoners, in this situation,
may have benefited from carrying one. Perhaps others would too, even on single day hikes.

No mobile phone on beach walks, that is reckless.