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Grounder at SICG 27-Oct-2009 At 9:27:02 AM rockranga

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On 26/10/2009 garbie wrote:
>On 26/10/2009 mikl law wrote:
>>One good feature at SICG is that the areas where there is a lot of leading
>>are too steep to toprope, thus there isn't much potential overlap between
>>leaders and topropers.
>>
>>One rule that could be posted in areas where they do overlap would be
>>"Lead climbing has right of way" i.e don't toprope up into the crutch
>of
>>some shaky leader
>
>Yep fair call, lead climbers are asked to watch out for potential dangers
>like this, but to
>make it clear we'll put some signs up. Ideally we would have the leading
>and top-roping
>areas separate, but it would mean leaders would have no easy terrain to
>climb, or top-
>ropers wouldn't get anything steep. Better I think to have them overlap
>but not have
>leaders & topropers in the same spot at the same time.

One of the things I do when leading is to tie the top rope off (ie.. climber end to belay device), most new people will not undo a knot in order to climb, it's either too confusing for them or they just assume it's tied up for a reason and off limits. A similar process could be implemented, you could advise leaders to tie off the top rope when they begin the route and untie when they finish, the really inexperienced climbers will move on without thinking and the more experienced climbers will realise what's going on and avoid the climb until it's free..