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Another Arapiles Accident 12-Feb-2003 At 2:45:21 PM Donut King

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As to bolt/no-bolt question (i'm far to lazy to go out place a bolt in rock) IMHO I'm all for keeping things as the FA intended (apart from replacing old rusty bolts/pitons etc) in that if it was a bold lead then thats the way it should be, otherwise almost every thing would have a bolt. i suppose then you could chose NOT to clip the bolt, but really......

I would be a little miffed if missing link had a bolt placed on it. if a cllimber feels its beyond there limits then back off, know when to down climb and think perhaps i should be more confidant next time. Or even get you mate who climbs 20 to lead and then you can practice on top rope ready for the big "head-point" as it were. People apply these tactics to "hard" routes (all relative) so why dont you to this route.

Lets not sanitise climbing to this extent.

"It seems to me hard does not always equal dangerous, and easy does not always equal safe."

I reckon thats a good summary.
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