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Booroomba accident 21-Apr-2016 At 1:48:18 PM patto

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On 21/04/2016 estey wrote:
>On 20/04/2016 patto wrote:
>You have high expectations mate.
You are right there. Australian climbing guidebooks are mostly excellent. When I climb overseas even at more popular destinations I am disappointing at the quality of the guides.

In contrast when I have canyoned overseas I have found the guides both online and in print much better. Adoption of a recognised canyon grading system would also make sense, IMO.

Now until I have written my own guidebook I feel I don't feel I can fault other guidebook authors. However I am faulting the culture of sparse details in canyoning..

On 21/04/2016 estey wrote:
>Environmental damage from canyoners occurs not so much in canyons themselves
>but through erosion on the walk ins and walk outs. This problem is real.
>To much detail in guidebooks will unnecessarily make this worse.
I completely agree except with the bit about too much detail. In climbing we limit out impact by sticking to the established trails. In Blue Mountain Canyoning I've seen the damage done by everybody taking a varied route.

Anyway... This is a climbing forum not a canyoning forum. So I'll leave it be.