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Booroomba accident 21-Apr-2016 At 8:54:12 AM estey

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On 20/04/2016 patto wrote:
>>Maybe it reflects a subtle change in attitude by more modern participants
>>of the game we play?
>I wouldn't say that the change is at all subtle. But the change has occurred
>and ignoring and writing mediocre guides and using adventure as an excuse
>isn't helpful.

You have high expectations mate. For more popular canyons there are more than adequate track notes online and in the Jamieson guide. Sure there are a few errors in the odd grid reference ... so what. There are errors in pitch lengths and grades in the best climbing guidebooks.

For less well travelled and more remote canyons a grid reference is enough information. It is easy enough to work out which are the real crackers by talking to other bushwalkers or trolling through trip reports online.

Environmental damage from canyoners occurs not so much in canyons themselves but through erosion on the walk ins and walk outs. This problem is real. To much detail in guidebooks will unnecessarily make this worse.

Regarding Hermes ... I always found the first pitch way more serious. Less pro, closer to the ground and at least one ledge you would not want to fall on.