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Booroomba accident 20-Apr-2016 At 4:42:10 PM patto

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On 20/04/2016 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>At risk of continued thread hijack... I find the concepts of beta vs adventure
>intriguing in this thread.
Same here which is why I broached the topic. And don't get me wrong, leaving the door open for adventure is great. There is still plenty available for those that want to step off the beaten path.

>Maybe it reflects a subtle change in attitude by more modern participants
>of the game we play?
I wouldn't say that the change is at all subtle. But the change has occurred and ignoring and writing mediocre guides and using adventure as an excuse isn't helpful.

Not that I think Australian guides are mediocre for climbing. I think they are very good. But I do take issue with the canyoning guides and the culture that surrounds them. I don't buy the conservation excuse.