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Booroomba accident 20-Apr-2016 At 12:45:33 AM patto

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When a climb is written up in a guide you are implicitly encouraging, inviting others to do it. Like it or not, there is also the implicit assumption that the climb is reasonably protectable within a certain contex,t. In most circumstances, writing up a climb with a 40m runout would not seem reasonable or even safe without mentioning it. Bolted climbs with a 25m runout exist, to not mention the run outs would invite trouble.

On 19/04/2016 phillipivan wrote:
>Don't most modern guides already provide that kind of information where
>the authors deem it relevant? Seems to me like the boat has already sailed
>on that one as far as the broader climbing community is concerned.
Yep. That boat has long sailed.

Meanwhile Bluemountains canyoning seems to be stuck in a nexus where there is a culture of poor guide books and limited information. Apparently this is a good thing because it encourages adventure....