>rapping at 3pm, as we had 3.5 pitches to go and I really wasn't
>100% sure we would make it out by dark. Some would call that overly cautious...
>but it really is pitch black at 5pm now.
Yep we finished in the dark at Piddo yesterday. I see what you're saying Neil, but you were attemptig Disco Biscuit, the gulf in experience is kinda huge there! Someone attempting Bunny Bucket, likely their first time in the Grose or on a route that big, just misses those decisions, they've likely never had to estimate their climbing speed like that.
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